Hickok reviews the Glock 23 Gen 5

[sd_shooter]

A third gen G23 was my first glock, I still love it!

But now... there's a Gen5! Thinking of picking one up. Supposedly it has a slightly heavier slide to absorb the additional kick of the 40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMz2arBsi9Y

[nedro]

A third gen G23 was my first glock, I still love it!

But now... there's a Gen5! Thinking of picking one up. Supposedly it has a slightly heavier slide to absorb the additional kick of the 40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMz2arBsi9Y

Look mom, i-phone just came out with a new color.
Man, I gots to have one!

[GlockN'Roll]

Look mom,

i-phone just came out with a new color.

Man, I gots to have one!

But mom, it is the new gen 5 color!

[hermosabeach]

funny how the G35 - they lighten the slide for reliability....

What did they mess up so that adding mass was the answer?

[9Cal_OC]

Nice! Might watch later.

I had a Gen3 and 4 but opted for the Gen4 due to the RSA similar to the G26.

[plumbum]

I actually like how they dealt with the slide - they learned some tricks with the G37/38/39 to apply to the gen 5. And to think, they added that second pin for “durability” and now they’re doing away with it. So does that mean gen 2 was more perfection than gen 3?!

I would probably pay retail for a gen 5 G22 - but I would definitely pay a premium for a gen 5 G41 or G40!

[deadcoyote]

I agree that some of the gen changes are marketing. The 4 to me didn’t really have any advantages over the 3. Yes, the recoils spring lasts twice as long, but it costs 2.5x more. I will say as an armorer for a small law enforcement agency the one part I saw fail a lot was the slide stop lever spring. On the gen 5 they actually significantly beefed up that part with a much better spring. This was an actual needed change in my eyes.

Less needed but a selfish want for me is the no finger grooves on the gen 5. I am a massive guy with baseball mitts for hands, and my fingers do not remotely line up with the grooves. We are in the process of transitioning from gen 3/4 to gen 5 where I work and I’m looking forward to it for that reason alone.

[deadcoyote]

Add on: A lot of the issues with the slide stop lever spring were shooter induced. Yes, some validly just went toes up after a whole lotta use and we’d replace them. But often you could tell an officer had broken the frame all the way down (which they’re not supposed to do) and would deny it until confronted with the facts of “this captive spring didn’t sneak out and shear itself off” then they’d remember they might have taken it down to give it a better scrubbing.

['ol shooter]

I hope the trigger feel is better now, I shot an older one and it was like crushing a grape under my index finger. The trigger on my old Springer XD-S in .40 is crisp compared to it.

[TomReloaded]

Did they finally fix the whole plastic frame and striker issue with the gen5?

[deadcoyote]

Did they finally fix the whole plastic frame and striker issue with the gen5?

[gun toting monkeyboy]

The biggest problem that they have always had with their .40 and .357 guns is that the frames tend to get battered and wear out faster than the 9mm versions. While an individual user is unlikely to run enough rounds through their guns to notice, large agencies have always had this issue. I know the fanbois will swarm in here with lots of "Nuh-uh, not MY forty!" But the thing is, everybody in the industry is well aware of this problem. By going to what appears to be a .45 GAP slide, Glock is both tacitly acknowledging this issue, and addressing it. While I still think .40 S&W is on its way out as a service cartridge, this is a good way of updating their design to make their guns chambered for it more viable long term. I also hope that this more spurs more holster options, as the thicker slide will likely mean many current holsters won't fit the new guns. I know this already, as I am one of those idiots who has .45 GAP guns. And let me tell you, finding a good IWB holster for a Glock 38 with a light is nigh impossible.

-Mb

[CWL]

More mass might help.

Problem with most .40sw pistols is that they are just 9mm guns refitted with different barrel, magazines & springs. What may be great for 9mm may not handle battering by .40sw/.357SiG in the long run.

[deadcoyote]

The biggest problem that they have always had with their .40 and .357 guns is that the frames tend to get battered and wear out faster than the 9mm versions. While an individual user is unlikely to run enough rounds through their guns to notice, large agencies have always had this issue. I know the fanbois will swarm in here with lots of "Nuh-uh, not MY forty!" But the thing is, everybody in the industry is well aware of this problem. By going to what appears to be a .45 GAP slide, Glock is both tacitly acknowledging this issue, and addressing it. While I still think .40 S&W is on its way out as a service cartridge, this is a good way of updating their design to make their guns chambered for it more viable long term. I also hope that this more spurs more holster options, as the thicker slide will likely mean many current holsters won't fit the new guns. I know this already, as I am one of those idiots who has .45 GAP guns. And let me tell you, finding a good IWB holster for a Glock 38 with a light is nigh impossible.

-Mb

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Glock may admit it, but the fanbois never will. I normally get autistic screeching and walls of text about how that is all a lie by 9mm fans, who have small penises, and can't hand a "real man's cartridge..." I don't actually have anything against. 40 caliber. It just wears out guns faster, costs more to feed, had fewer rounds, and more recoil. Hell, I still even own one, as a hedge for ammo panics. Well, that one didn't work out quite so well for me this time around. But I still have a bunch of ammo for it if things get desperate.

I wonder how close a Glock 37 with a .40 conversion barrel is to the new gen 5 guns?

-Mb