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  • DanGunner
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 1201

    Everything old is new again

    While trying out my new (to me) S&W Model 69 .44 Mag Combat Magnum, it occurred to me that the extra locking mechanism on the cylinder crane, designed to give extra support while shooting magnum loads, is really a throwback. More than a century ago, when S&W brought out its "New Century" revolver for the then-new .44 Special cartridge, a longer version of the .44 Russian, it included a third lock for the cylinder crane because of the extra power of the .44 Special cartridge. It became known as the "triple lock" and is much prized by collectors and Elmer Keith famously used it for extra-hot .44 Special loads that were the foreruuner of the .44 Magnum, which then led to the development of a third lock on the Model 69. As this passage from Wikipedia points out, the .44 triple lock was abandoned by S&W after about 15,000 were manufactured. Subsequent .44 Special and .44 Magnum models got by with two locking lugs - until now.

  • #2
    'ol shooter
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 4646

    Right you are, some things should never change. I have to get by with an add-on ball lock for my 29 and 625 in .45 Colt.
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    • #3
      elSquid
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2007
      • 11844

      (cough) Ruger SP101 & GP100 (cough)



      -- Michael

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      • #4
        Cowboy T
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2010
        • 5725

        Originally posted by elSquid
        (cough) Ruger SP101 & GP100 (cough)



        -- Michael
        (cough) and Ruger Redhawk (cough)

        Yeah, that should've remained a standard feature on S&W's guns, especially anything in a Magnum-type handgun chambering. That's why Ruger did it in 1978 with the original Redhawk.
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        • #5
          splithoof
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2015
          • 5772

          Originally posted by DanGunner
          While trying out my new (to me) S&W Model 69 .44 Mag Combat Magnum, it occurred to me that the extra locking mechanism on the cylinder crane, designed to give extra support while shooting magnum loads, is really a throwback. More than a century ago, when S&W brought out its "New Century" revolver for the then-new .44 Special cartridge, a longer version of the .44 Russian, it included a third lock for the cylinder crane because of the extra power of the .44 Special cartridge. It became known as the "triple lock" and is much prized by collectors and Elmer Keith famously used it for extra-hot .44 Special loads that were the foreruuner of the .44 Magnum, which then led to the development of a third lock on the Model 69. As this passage from Wikipedia points out, the .44 triple lock was abandoned by S&W after about 15,000 were manufactured. Subsequent .44 Special and .44 Magnum models got by with two locking lugs - until now.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_...on_Triple_Lock

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          • #6
            IVC
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 17594

            Originally posted by elSquid
            (cough) Ruger SP101 & GP100 (cough)



            -- Michael
            Haha, my exact thoughts when I read "tripple lock."
            sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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            • #7
              DanGunner
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2017
              • 1201

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              • #8
                splithoof
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2015
                • 5772

                Originally posted by DanGunner
                I have a 90 year old S&W third model .44 known as Wolf & Klar model which is much rarer than triple lock.

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                • #9
                  DanGunner
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1201

                  I've done quite a bit of research and it appears that relatively light 185-grain Hornaday XTPs at about 900 fps give good expansion and penetration as a .44 Special defense load. For the range I shoot FMJ rounds, usually from Redline Ballistics in Sacramento when they have them, which is very uncertain these days. But I still have a couple of hundred rounds. I've bought a box of .44 Mag Blazer JHP to give the full power ammo a try one of these days.

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                  • #10
                    Che762x39
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4538

                    Originally posted by DanGunner
                    I've done quite a bit of research and it appears that relatively light 185-grain Hornaday XTPs at about 900 fps give good expansion and penetration as a .44 Special defense load. For the range I shoot FMJ rounds, usually from Redline Ballistics in Sacramento when they have them, which is very uncertain these days. But I still have a couple of hundred rounds. I've bought a box of .44 Mag Blazer JHP to give the full power ammo a try one of these days.
                    Are you a reloader? Rolling your own not only saves money you can create the perfect load.

                    In 44 Special I like a 240 grain LSWC over 6 grains of Unique.

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                    • #11
                      DanGunner
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 1201

                      Originally posted by Che762x39
                      Are you a reloader? Rolling your own not only saves money you can create the perfect load.

                      In 44 Special I like a 240 grain LSWC over 6 grains of Unique.
                      Last edited by DanGunner; 12-29-2020, 6:36 PM. Reason: Typo

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