Springfield 1911 dating

[echo1]

Hi All,

I recently picked up a Springfield 1911, and have been having a devil of a time trying to figure out it's build date. Springfield's phone lines have been tied up. The serial number is NM135XXX. Any ideas guys. Thanks, PAX

[omega]

does it have a standard GI firing pin or an undersized .38 super type FP?

the older models have GI size firing pins as used on original M1911's

[Mr. Blue]

Hi All,

I recently picked up a Springfield 1911, and have been having a devil of a time trying to figure out it's build date. Springfield's phone lines have been tied up. The serial number is NM135XXX. Any ideas guys. Thanks, PAX

I just called them on mine. Try calling again?

[The War Wagon]

Ya' still gotta call, but here's some great info from another 1911 site:

A lot of debate has gone around on the internet about what the "NM" serial number prefix stands for. Some believe that it stands for "National Match", which is typically the case when you see that marking, however it's not so with Springfield 1911's. It is well known that Springfield Armory Inc. 1911's start from IMBEL forgings from Brazil. The 1911's that have the "Brazil" import marking's on the frame have more than 50% of the work performed by IMBEL, these would have the "N" prefix. The GI's are also made in Brazil and have the WW prefix. The Mil-spec model's can have either a N or NM prefix, with the N being more common.

Springfield's Loaded models, could either have the N or NM prefix. Model's with the N prefix are imported almost complete with the exception of the sight and beavertail grip safety cut's. These cuts are done at Springfield's facility in Geneseo, IL. The NM prefix Loaded's (as well as the Range Officer, TRP and Trophy Match) have the magwell and most of the internal cuts done, but no rail cuts. The final CNC machining on NM prefixes is done in Illinois.


The rest of the 1911 prefixes such as LW, TGO-2, TGO-3 and EMP all come from Springfield's Illinois facility, though I have seen some older LW's marked "Brazil". The Custom Shop gun prefixes such as CRG, FBI, DEA, and TGO-1, as well as any other Custom Shop marked gun, are also made in Illinois. According to Springfield, the Custom Shop marked guns are built using "National Match" frames.

Springfield Inc said:

Springfield uses the prefixes of "N" and "NM" to designate 1911-A1 type pistols, just as we used "AM" as the prefix for the P9 series of pistols. The only pistols which use the national match frames are the complete custom pistols built through our custom shop. These pistols have "Springfield Custom" etched on the slide, and will have the "NM" prefix to the serial number.

Deb, Custom Shop Coordinator
Springfield Custom
Springfield Inc.
customshop@springfield-armory.com

Is there a difference in build quality? In my opinion/experience...yes. In general the NM marked guns have a better frame/slide fit, than the similar model with a N prefix. Other's on the internet tend to look for the NM marked 1911's as well.

Hope that helps a bit.

[echo1]

Thanks guys. I really don't know much about 1911s but this one is nice. I picked it up at the gunsmith, it had new springs installed some trigger work done. I also have a RIA tactical and a 1917 Colt 1911. PAX

[Pupulepeter]

There was a point a couple years ago when the NM became much more prominent and SAI started following the process mentioned above for all guns. You don’t see anything new with “made in Brazil” on it anymore. Most likely your gun was made within the last five years.

[.sam.]

Maybe email them instead.

Try looking underneath the dust cover or remove the grips, there may be a year stamp.

[echo1]

May 1992 production date via Springfield. PAX

[Rgarbarino]

I emailed them the serial number and got a reply within 1 day of the build date.