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  • Skyguns
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 7

    Moving back with 9mm pistol lower?

    Hey guys it's been a while. I'm stationed in a free state at the moment. I usually love to take advantage of it before I fly home however I want to try something different. Instead of blowing all my money on a complete build I want to buy a dedicated 9mm ar lower and just the lower and fly back with it to complete the pistol build.

    Can I do this or am I looking at a nono?
    I tell myself when I'm done building guns I will start shooting them. Then when I am done with a gun I buy a new one to build...
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    Bring it in and some off roster handguns good rainy day money.

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    • #3
      tamster00
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 18

      Possibly can. It would be cheaper to buy a 9mm carbine complete for less, like a Ruger PC9.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Originally posted by Skyguns
        Hey guys it's been a while. I'm stationed in a free state at the moment. I usually love to take advantage of it before I fly home however I want to try something different. Instead of blowing all my money on a complete build I want to buy a dedicated 9mm ar lower and just the lower and fly back with it to complete the pistol build.

        Can I do this or am I looking at a nono?
        As long as CA does not consider you a CA resident, then you can legally bring firearms you acquired while you are active-duty Military.

        Because of CA unsafe handgun laws...

        The factory (07-FFL created) virgin receiver can legally be used to only make a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol.

        Per CA DOJ, a handgun that is made as a a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol, needs to remain configured as such in order to remain CA legal.

        Therefore, when you get to CA, the AR pistol lower can only be legally made into a SSE2 pistol and, in order to remain CA legal, it needs to remain configured as a SSE2 pistol.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          ^^ Thanks for heads up on sse2 quiet.

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          • #6
            Skyguns
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2018
            • 7

            Originally posted by Quiet
            As long as CA does not consider you a CA resident, then you can legally bring firearms you acquired while you are active-duty Military.

            Because of CA unsafe handgun laws...

            The factory (07-FFL created) virgin receiver can legally be used to only make a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol.

            Per CA DOJ, a handgun that is made as a a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol, needs to remain configured as such in order to remain CA legal.

            Therefore, when you get to CA, the AR pistol lower can only be legally made into a SSE2 pistol and, in order to remain CA legal, it needs to remain configured as a SSE2 pistol.
            Mmm dont suppose they make a kalikey for 9 and assuming lead sleds are a no go.

            That last part is a bit of a contradiction on Californians part if that is true. Iv known people that bought gen5's while permanently stationed in VA with proof of station. Brought them home to cali on leave where they still had a seperate address because they found out they were going on naval deployment where they home ported in cali at the end of it....
            I tell myself when I'm done building guns I will start shooting them. Then when I am done with a gun I buy a new one to build...

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              Originally posted by Skyguns
              That last part is a bit of a contradiction on Californians part if that is true. Iv known people that bought gen5's while permanently stationed in VA with proof of station. Brought them home to cali on leave where they still had a seperate address because they found out they were going on naval deployment where they home ported in cali at the end of it....
              Under Federal laws/regulations...

              Active duty Military are considered residents of the State where their permanent duty station is located in.

              As a resident of that State, they can legally acquire firearms their in accordance to Federal laws and that State's laws.

              Under CA laws/regulations...

              If you maintain your CA residency while in the Military, CA will still consider you a CA resident.

              Starting 01-01-2015, it is illegal for a CA resident to import firearms they acquired while in another State into CA unless they utilize a CA FFL dealer to legally import and transfer the firearms.

              Failure to utilize a CA FFL dealer equates to a misdemeanor per long gun and a felony per handgun.

              There is no exemption to this for CA residents that are in the Military.

              Firearms imported into CA must be CA legal and can not include any large capacity magazines.
              If the firearm is a handgun, then it must be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it (C&R, OTP, SAE, SSE2).

              Therefore...

              A CA resident, that is active duty Military with permanent orders for another State, can legally acquire firearms in that State in compliance with Federal and that State's laws.

              However, they can not legally bring those firearms to CA, unless they are shipped to a CA FFL dealer and transferred (DROS/10 day wait/1 in 30 day wait) to them.
              Last edited by Quiet; 08-14-2020, 3:29 AM.
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              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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              • #8
                Skyguns
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2018
                • 7

                Originally posted by Quiet
                Under Federal laws/regulations...

                Active duty Military are considered residents of the State where their permanent duty station is located in.

                As a resident of that State, they can legally acquire firearms their in accordance to Federal laws and that State's laws.

                Under CA laws/regulations...

                If you maintain your CA residency while in the Military, CA will still consider you a CA resident.

                Starting 01-01-2015, it is illegal for a CA resident to import firearms they acquired while in another State into CA unless they utilize a CA FFL dealer to legally import and transfer the firearms.

                Failure to utilize a CA FFL dealer equates to a misdemeanor per long gun and a felony per handgun.

                There is no exemption to this for CA residents that are in the Military.

                Firearms imported into CA must be CA legal and can not include any large capacity magazines.
                If the firearm is a handgun, then it must be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it (C&R, OTP, SAE, SSE2).

                Therefore...

                A CA resident, that is active duty Military with permanent orders for another State, can legally acquire firearms in that State in compliance with Federal and that State's laws.

                However, they can not legally bring those firearms to CA, unless they are shipped to a CA FFL dealer and transferred (DROS/10 day wait/1 in 30 day wait) to them.
                Very good to know thank you!
                I tell myself when I'm done building guns I will start shooting them. Then when I am done with a gun I buy a new one to build...

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19851

                  Build it into a pistol before you move to Kali. Then you only have to make it "assault weapon" legal.

                  Above is according to my thankfully very thin knowledge of Kali laws.

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