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  • HK280z
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 76

    HK P2000 Opinions?

  • #2
    jimmythebrain
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 425

    you can have variety or get really good with one platform.

    Unless your job is being a shooter/competitor for a firearm or ammunition company then you have limited range time and ammo is expensive. As a result when you split your time and resources between hammer fired and striker fired or change up ammo/recoil, or even just control lever positions on a gun then you have to reset your thinking. When I pick up a Beretta 92 series or even the Storm it takes me three or four mags to be able to reliably hit point of aim. At first I am low and to the left. I do not have the same problem when I pick up a 1911.

    The 40 caliber is certainly more snappy than the 9 mm. But you can become very skilled with a 40 Caliber. It may just take some extra practice.
    If you goal is minimally proficient then get a 9 MM. If you want to be really good then you can get there with a 40 caliber and the P2000 is a good gun.

    I have 9 MM pistols and 40 Cal pistols. My nightstand gun is a 40 Cal.

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    • #3
      Mr. Blue
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2019
      • 2503

      *The comparison is a bit hard. Apples to oranges, yes the 9mm has a bit less recoil, however the G19 is striker fired.

      *The main advantage with going with ANY 9mm, like the HKP2000 in 9mm, G19, VP9 etc. is that ammo is cheaper, more available in stores, a bit smaller and typically packs 1 more in magazine. Also, there has been much more research and development in 9mm. It has been around far longer than .40 which means that ammunition is developed by more companies. The FBI even did a very long and extensive look into calibers and chose 9mm.

      *Magazines in 9mm are also more prevalent, and resale will be better. Not that you’ll get more money for the 9mm, but you’ll have a bigger market of people wanting the 9mm over the 40.

      *You can absolutely train to be as good with 40 as 9. I do recommend starting with a 9mm as a “first gun” to learn pistols with. (I suggest training in a lot of different weapons. However, you’ll want to have on primary format to train and operate. The HK is superior to the Glock in build quality. Glock is the best value. Either are excellent. So, if you want to be very consistent, having a carrying a G19 during winter, a G26 for Summer and having the G30 for home defense. Myself, I have an HKSP2000sk 9mm and a Springfield Hellcat for carry, a Springfield XD9 and 1911 MC Operator for home defense. I will be selling the XD for a Glock19. I’m not brand specific. Also, I’m not 90% protector/CCW/trainer. I am 70% loves all types of guns, range fun, tactical training. 30% practical.

      *The instructor saying you should have two striker or two hammer is speaking from an instructors point of view only. He/She is simply thinking of training for concealed carry. If you enjoy shooting at all, like going to the range for fun. Or, if you want to be proficient in all different kinds of weapons, I recommend hanging on to what you have. Don’t let the hammer/striker difference sway you. There are advantages to both.

      **40 cal is not a bad caliber. Many people prefer it. Most police agencies in the US do as well. The ammo is generally more expensive and has more recoil. Doesn’t make it bad tho. It just makes 9mm look that much better. Lol.

      Sorry for the long post, I just think these types of things really depend on the person. Don’t let anyone tell you the RIGHT or WRONG way. It all depends on the person. Just like advising someone on a car. There is not right or wrong car, it depends on the job at hand. Much like a Toyota Corolla, you can’t really go wrong with a Glock. Some might say an HKp2000 in 40 is the wrong choice for a beginner because they themselves didn’t begin with it. Ask many different people many different questions and you will start to see patters in truth.
      https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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      • #4
        jsigone
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 1211

        you will get used to the 40, stick with it. Plus Glock 19 are unicorns glittered in fairy dust right now....aka near impossible to find in stock

        Also comparing hammer gun to striker fire, has a different timing and reset between the two. But I'm a believer of learning each style of gun, hammer and striker. SAO vs DA/SA hammer guns. Life is to short to limit you to one style of guns, plus the cali roster is pretty $hiit already and even more towards types of striker guns you can have. Roster Hammer guns you have the HK, CZ, Sigs and 1911 to play with.

        Also try heavier bullet weight on the 40cal, the 165gn could be snappy since it's added FPS. If you can double taps the G30, you can double tap the 40cal.

        Practice practice practice...sometimes you have good days and sometimes there are ****ty days or you just drink too much coffee. My instructor told me, I'd be 50% of my ****ty day when I need it to count.

        Look up USPSA Limited class videos on you tube, most are running 40cal, mind you may be hand loaded but still has to make major power factor when tested.

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        • #5
          LkPillsburyDude
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 921

          Fwiw I shoot my brothers glock 29 (10mm) better than the p2000 I had. 40 is not snappy compared to our reload 10mm. You will get used to it.

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          • #6
            CAL.BAR
            CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
            • Nov 2007
            • 5632

            I CCW a P2000sk in .40 and have done so for many years. While it is quite good, I am transitioning to the Sig P365 as it is much smaller in every measurement and thus easier to carry on a daily basis.

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            • #7
              etwinam
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 3223

              Long heavy trigger with a lot of take up and the .40 makes it that much worse.

              It's a well built handgun, in fact overbuilt is the work I would use. but I'm a trigger snob and the trigger is a huge deal to me.

              Instructor is just trying to help you and I think most people would agree that 9mm is easier to learn on than .40 for most people.

              I would also say G19 is a pretty solid gun all around. it's not going to be as snappy and the trigger will be much better imo. I'd swap the sights and spend some money on training.
              God, Guns & Integrity. Prioritize your Priorities.

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              • #8
                ghideon
                Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 403

                Got a P2000 in 9mm, with over 20k rounds through it (never malf'd, ever). I agree it's overbuilt. Also have a VP9, which I'd like to transition over to, but I need practice time.

                Keep both for now (since everything is hard to find), and shoot them as much as you can. For your next one, pick something in 9mm, since it's easier to stock ammo for. Striker fired or DA/SA, that's up to you. Whatever you like/don't like on the P2000 and the G30sf, make sure the 9mm fills in the gaps.

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                • #9
                  DDM4556
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2601

                  I’d be very happy to have a .40 P2000 right now, even if it’s all I had. I don’t own a P2000, but I’ve had my eye on them for years. Eventually I’ll pick one up. HKs are excellent.

                  OP if you practice and get the fundamentals down pat, you’ll do perfectly fine with .40. It’s not the most popular caliber right now, but it’s still a very effective round. If you watch experts (like Paul Harrell 9mm vs .40), you’ll see that fundamentals translate to good shooting with either caliber.

                  Keep practicing OP. Buy some snap caps and dry fire practice at home too.
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                  • #10
                    Nvberinger
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2018
                    • 729

                    Vp9 is better than p2000 and both are far better than Glock 19
                    And vp9sk is great. Don't bother with Glock if you have HK 40SW
                    Save your cash and get a vp9

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                    • #11
                      Mr. Blue
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 2503

                      Originally posted by CAL.BAR
                      I CCW a P2000sk in .40 and have done so for many years. While it is quite good, I am transitioning to the Sig P365 as it is much smaller in every measurement and thus easier to carry on a daily basis.
                      https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                      • #12
                        Mr. Blue
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 2503

                        https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                        • #13
                          P08
                          Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 245

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                          • #14
                            Weezard
                            Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 122

                            hkparts.net has +5 magazine extensions so you can get up to 18 rounds. Not that it matters at the moment in California.

                            I have a p2000. As far as I am aware it's the only fully ambidextrous handgun on the roster. I like it but not as much as I thought I would.

                            I like the paddle magazine release after installing the extended magazine release. I use my trigger finger on it, which was difficult with the stock paddle.

                            I was preventing it from locking open by riding the slide release. I installed a low profile slide release and haven't had a problem since, but haven't shot it much. I'm still paranoid about it.

                            I really like the concept of the LEM trigger, but the on-roster LEM trigger is the heaviest one they make. Out of the box mine was 7.5 lbs. I changed the firing pin block spring and brought it down to 6.5 lbs, which is still on the heavy side. The HK also has a "hard wall" before the trigger break which brings out my bad habit of anticipating recoil. My CZs are more like revolver triggers that are smooth through the trigger pull. I could lighten the HK trigger more but I'm treating it as a training gun to work on this bad habit.

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                            • #15
                              Mr. Blue
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 2503

                              Guys OP told me he is left handed...even a stronger reason to stick with HK right?
                              https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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