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  • serkerone
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 215

    black talons for HD

    would you use them? and is there any legal issues if you still do?

    i also have a bunch on winchester silver tips for 45 im just tryna figure out what would work best... but then again .45 ball ammo works well too
    Last edited by serkerone; 05-11-2009, 7:44 AM.
  • #2
    Colt Jackson
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 40

    Black Talons

    I have a box of .45 talons and was told once buy a gun shop ownwer that if I shot somebody breaking into my house I could be sued for using them!! I would not use them for home defense, just keep them around for IF the S@$% ever hits the fan, then there are no rules. Use Hydrashocks or Corbons.

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    • #3
      Vin496
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2008
      • 8804

      Of course you could use them, why not?

      It is/was a commercially available round. The only supposed issue you may have is when you use your own reloaded ammunition for HD.

      By the way Black Talon are almost the same thing as Winchester SXT. They supposedly just changed the name and got rid of the black coating due to bad press the round was getting.
      I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

      and

      If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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      • #4
        Vin496
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 8804

        Originally posted by Colt Jackson
        I have a box of .45 talons and was told once buy a gun shop ownwer that if I shot somebody breaking into my house I could be sued for using them!! I would not use them for home defense, just keep them around for IF the S@$% ever hits the fan, then there are no rules. Use Hydrashocks or Corbons.
        Complete and udder FUD!!!!
        I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

        and

        If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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        • #5
          kermit315
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2007
          • 5928

          Its FUD. You can use them. They were the target of a smear campaign based on their color/name. Winchester voluntarily pulled them, renamed them to SXT (same exact thing) and put them back on the shelf.

          They are fine to use, however there are rounds out there with better ballistics today that you could also use.

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          • #6
            HowardW56
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2003
            • 5901

            Originally posted by Vin496
            Of course you could use them, why not?

            It is/was a commercially available round. The only supposed issue you may have is when you use your own reloaded ammunition for HD.

            By the way Black Talon are almost the same thing as Winchester SXT. They supposedly just changed the name and got rid of the black coating due to bad press the round was getting.

            Winchester "Same eXact Thing"
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            • #7
              DVSmith
              Cantankerous old coot
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2007
              • 3702

              Funny that after all these years this same fud comes back around every so often.

              I would suggest that the age of the ammo might put it outside the window of what I would use for SD. Also, more modern designs are more effective. Buy something current and use that old stuff at the range (if they allow it).

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              • #8
                Casual_Shooter
                Ban Hammer Avoidance Team
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Sep 2006
                • 11733

                You can use them, but have to paint them pink with blue puppy paw-prints and rename them "puppy paw-print pistol" ammo. That way they sound "cute" and not so dangerous.
                Guns, dogs and home alarms. Opponents are all of a sudden advocates once their personal space is violated.

                "Those who cannot remember the posts are condemned to repeat them"



                Why is it all the funny stuff happens to comedians?

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                • #9
                  Colt Jackson
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 40

                  Well I am glad to know I can use these. I was told this many years ago and have not thought to see if they were ok to use. Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    sorensen440
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 8611

                    The only reason I would not use them is they are too expensive to run a couple hundred through to make sure my gun likes them
                    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #11
                      Fantasma
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 3077

                      Originally posted by Casual_Shooter
                      You can use them, but have to paint them pink with blue puppy paw-prints and rename them "puppy paw-print pistol" ammo. That way they sound "cute" and not so dangerous.

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                      • #12
                        Miltiades
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1148

                        Dilemma...

                        Black Talons are strictly collectors' items now. Their value is based on urban legend rather than facts. You can't shoot people with them because it would be too cruel, and you would be sued! You can't use them at the range because they would go right through the backstop, the cinderblock wall, and several cars in the parking lot! You can't be caught with them by the police or you will be charged with conspiracy to commit mayhem!

                        Just flush them down the toilet and buy some regular ammo.

                        Oh wait, nobody has regular ammo in stock because of the shortage and hoarding.

                        Better just forget all my advice.

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                        • #13
                          DNA
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1517

                          They're still good to go, although I would suggest keeping them as the collector's item and picking yourself up some "fresh" ammo, like the SXTs.

                          Dan
                          Originally posted by bigmike82
                          That doesn't matter.

                          If you believe in Liberty, you should believe it for everyone, not simply those whom you agree with.

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                          • #14
                            AdamM
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 850

                            Federal HST's FTW

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                            • #15
                              Z ME FLY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6590

                              Hmmm... this is a good read for me, I always wondered about the Black Talon ammo I see for my 9mm. It's like $1 a bullet! LOL
                              Originally posted by 69Mach1
                              The virgin requires more work (don't they all )

                              Originally posted by 69Mach1
                              Z gets around. lol

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