Laser ammo trainer??

[russ13]

[rodralig]

I was looking at getting this. Has anyone used one before and know if they’re any good?



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Too expensive for functionality. I would rather go with this:

https://lasrapp.com/

However, you are quite limited in what you can do unless you have a DA pistol because for a striker, you'd be racking the slide all the time.

So, if you have the budget, get one of these for your own gun:

https://coolfiretrainer.com/

PS: Oh, yeah... I have one of these: https://store.laser-ammo.com/laser-t...emium-kit.html (which I got with an instructor discount). It stays in my cabinet.

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[Snoopy47]

I was using LaserLyte and the durability of them suck.

I used both a barrel insert, which no longer seems to work after fiddling with it, changing multiple batteries (got it to work for a little while, then stopped again), as well as the blue laser pistol. Trigger switch broke on the inside and stopped striking the laser).

I'm on the look out for a replacement but just can bring myself to the $200+ solutions for potentially the same experience.

[Barang]

i just bought itarget pro thinking the range will be closed until june. now the range we go to is open. so will not be using them until winter.

[CWL]

I really like my LaserLyte. Aside from eating batteries, mine works great for home holster draw & shoot practice. I never bothered with a dedicated target when any doorknob works.

[Vinnie22]

Got a few of these in 9mm and 380. Works great, definitely good bang for your buck (without the bang).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K34W265/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_QabTEbDBQNHAM

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077X4GLJ5/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_babTEbV133VTF

Can be used alone for dry firing practice, or with the free iTarget app (with paid upgrade options). Also pick up one of these of you use the app:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4NFCZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_6lbTEbSKZ4649

**Works best with DA guns, but SA isn't that bad (no need to rack the slide all the way every time, just enough to reset the trigger).
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[theLBC]

I really like my LaserLyte. Aside from eating batteries, mine works great for home holster draw & shoot practice. I never bothered with a dedicated target when any doorknob works.

mine also works fine. great for double-action practice.

[beanz2]

I have an older version of Laser Ammo trainer. I think it helps with the speed of my presentation, but as rodralig says, it’s useless for practicing controlled pairs as you have to rack the slide or cock the hammer each time. The DA on my CZs just don’t feel the same. The positives are that you are using your actual gun and holster, so the grip, the weight and trigger feel is exactly the same. The downside is the lack of recoil you get.

BTW, the rifle version is completely useless. The laser beam is too small to see once you are at rifle distances. At closer distances, the optic height over barrel issue makes it useless. Oh, don’t mix up your 9mm end cap with your .223 end cap. It’ll go in, but it will mess up your chamber.

I go through end caps like toilet paper rolls. Two weeks or so, and you need a new one. I put a small dab of two-part flexible epoxy glue on the rubbery stuff on the end cap to extend the end cap life for another 3-4 days LOL

For the batteries I’ve found the equivalent in hearing aid batteries. Split an old Laser Ammo battery open, they’re actually three hearing aid batteries shrink wrapped into one. Note the individual battery size, and get the same size at Walmart for hearing aids. Stack three up in the laser cartridge. Much cheaper.


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[n00b_]

Got a few of these in 9mm and 380. Works great, definitely good bang for your buck (without the bang).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K34W265/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_QabTEbDBQNHAM

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077X4GLJ5/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_babTEbV133VTF

Can be used alone for dry firing practice, or with the free iTarget app (with paid upgrade options). Also pick up one of these of you use the app:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R4NFCZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_6lbTEbSKZ4649

**Works best with DA guns, but SA isn't that bad (no need to rack the slide all the way every time, just enough to reset the trigger).
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I use a similar setup. I got the laser from a different company, Gsight, but looks like they're all made from the same factory. Works great. I usually do 5-7 yards using an Ipad closer to the target. Much cheaper and can have more targets. The camera picks up 3-4 targets, 1 12x18# and 3 different printed targets. That's exactly what I use. The red bulleyes sometimes doesn't get picked up because the laser is red. Quick fix is just put a different color over. Bonus is the video recording so you review it right after.

[DChartier]

I used to use the Laserlyte cartridges. They're nice when they work, and it's great for practicing with your usual sidearm. Nearly all my pistols are DA/SA, so getting DA practice is critical.

However, I never found the Laserlyte cartridges to be very durable. After a few hundred rounds (which goes by fast if you train regularly!), the rubber-coated "primer" starts getting suck, leaving the laser on when I'd close the slide or fire. Then you have to buy a new end cap with the "primer," which isn't that cheap. In Laserlyte's defense, they sent me a free replacement under warranty the first time this happened because it occurred within two hundred trigger pulls. But the second and third replacements I got had the same issue after a few hundred rounds.

I now use the SIRT training pistol (https://nextleveltraining.com/produc...ning-pistol-2/). It's roughly the size and weight of a Glock 17 and has a similar trigger. It also has a removable, weighted magazine so you can practice reloads. The sights and laser are also adjustable so you can get a solid zero.

I've had well over a thousand trigger pulls with it, and it's working perfectly on the original battery. It's been great for training me to shoot accurately with both eyes open. I use it with the Laserlyte target, which provides solid feedback (but see below).

Good points:

- Feels like a real pistol in your hands.
- It has a decent "striker-fired" trigger, somewhat similar to a Glock trigger.
- Avoids wear-and-tear on your real pistols.
- Great durability and battery life.
- Fits fine in my regular holster
- Has a rail, so you can add your usual accessories.
- The laser is very bright. Because of the lock-down, I'm working from home. When I'm on long phone calls, I use the training pistol to shoot at objects as far as thirty yards from my office window. Even during the day, if I shoot at areas not in direct sunlight, the laser is bright and clear!

Downsides:

- It's very expensive! That said, I've gotten a ton of use out of the pistol and expect to get a lot more. Over the long term, I think it's a worthwhile investment if you want to dry fire a lot.
- You can't use the pistol to practice double-action firing.
- Unless you have a Glock 17, it probably won't duplicate your standard sidearm faithfully, whether in dimensions or trigger pull.
- The laser stays for as long as you hold down the trigger. So when you use a target like Laserlyte's, your scores and results won't show exactly where the hit would have been. You could, of course, slap the trigger to get better feedback from the target, but that would instill bad habits.
- As is the case for any laser trainer, whether a pistol or a cartridge, training with the pistol can cause you to focus on the laser point rather than the front sight. You just have to be very conscientious about maintaining front sight focus, despite a nice, bright, red point just by your sights.

At the end of the day, I think it's a great training tool, and I strongly recommend it if you can swallow the price. Good luck!

[gregdelaski]

I have one with a special practice trigger for my Glock. No racking of the slide needed. It's a pretty good practice tool especially during these times when you can't go to a range

[rodralig]

I now use the SIRT training pistol (https://nextleveltraining.com/produc...ning-pistol-2/). It's roughly the size and weight of a Glock 17 and has a similar trigger. It also has a removable, weighted magazine so you can practice reloads. The sights and laser are also adjustable so you can get a solid zero.

I've had well over a thousand trigger pulls with it, and it's working perfectly on the original battery. It's been great for training me to shoot accurately with both eyes open.

Have had the SiRT in conjunction with the LASR app when I first started into firearms. Although I haven't used much lately, it has been going strong on the original battery years later. Mine is the metal-slide. Really good training tool for a Glock shooter.

Here is a throwback from 2017. Looking at it - I was extremely slow with my draws, reload, and splits. Imprecise as well!

Oh, well...




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[DChartier]

Nice shooting! I'm glad you had good experiences with the SIRT pistol. Despite its limitations, I think it's a great training tool. I can leave it on my home desk while I work for ready use and not worry about it getting stolen or causing a terrible accident. It's no substitute for live fire, but it's effective for staying sharp or building muscle memory for a new skill.

Have had the SiRT in conjunction with the LASR app when I first started into firearms. Although I haven't used much lately, it has been going strong on the original battery years later. Mine is the metal-slide. Really good training tool for a Glock shooter.

Here is a throwback from 2017. Looking at it - I was extremely slow with my draws, reload, and splits. Imprecise as well!

Oh, well...




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[rodralig]

Nice shooting! I'm glad you had good experiences with the SIRT pistol. Despite its limitations, I think it's a great training tool. I can leave it on my home desk while I work for ready use and not worry about it getting stolen or causing a terrible accident. It's no substitute for live fire, but it's effective for staying sharp or building muscle memory for a new skill.

Thank you!

Although I don't use it as much anymore, it still has its place. Say, like when I do scenario practice at home (I adjusted the laser so it below the sights so I don't become laser focussed)... And a good training tool for my 12-yr old boy (he just started in firearms).

Oh, yes, BTW, the SiRT surprisingly does NOT fit the Safariland holster for a Glock 17. Yep...

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[Mr.Baker]

I found that the Target Pro is the most reliable and cost effective on the market right now; I bought mine for about $90.00 and it works great. It comes with a adjustable target housing system that you smart phone attaches to and uses the camera on the phone as well as a laser that looks like a bullet That you chamber. Next you download the app from the App Store or Google Play. You can set it for 1 foot and all the way to 100 feet distance. It has the Bullseye training simulator and Quick Draw from a holster that beeps at random times so you don’t anticipate the times. I found when I use this indoors it greatly improves my target practice on the range.
Last thing the Camera sees the laser where it hits on the target and the app simulates a gun shot sound and even makes a bullet hole on the target that’s quite convincing plus it keeps track of you score and shot timing which can be saved to your phone to see how well your improving over the course of practicing