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  • 650proof
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 403

    Single shot AR pistol conversion

    Im very interested in the CA7 however Ive been told some FFLs can manufacture single shot pistols for quite a few bucks less. Is it feasible to purchase a single shot and convert it into a repeater since i only have >10 round mags and would like to retain the original mag release when shooting semi out of state
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    instaramen
    Member
    • May 2019
    • 383

    short answer: no it is not legal to convert a single shot. It must stay a single shot while in CA.

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    • #3
      plumbum
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 5394

      ^bingo
      Cannot circumvent the all powerful roster!
      Originally posted by ysr_racer
      Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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      • #4
        LateBraking
        iTrader in Bio
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2013
        • 1628

        And to follow up on instaramen and plumbum's reply, in case you get further confused, CA7 is not a single shot, it is actually on CA's roster of safe handguns, and is registered as a bolt-action repeater.

        There's a literal typhoon of discussion regarding single shot and CA7's bolt action out there, so probably better to search for those than watch your thread devolve into the same arguments rehashed all over again. You're not gonna like how ugly it can get, haha....
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        • #5
          fvaj87
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2019
          • 40

          Pay the premium and buy an already drosd semi-auto pistol lower or complete set up.

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          • #6
            1 SIG fan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 2491

            ^What do they run?

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            • #7
              Peahi2
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 818

              This topic has never been discussed before. Lol

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              • #8
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                Originally posted by Peahi2
                This topic has never been discussed before. Lol
                The wise man said just find your place
                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
                K. Meine

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                • #9
                  SCVlongstroke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 725

                  Originally posted by 1 SIG fan
                  ^What do they run?

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                  • #10
                    TommyGun87
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 17

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                    • #11
                      SigSauerP226
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 877

                      Originally posted by 1 SIG fan
                      ^What do they run?
                      From what I saw, way more than buying a CA7 and converting that. I had seen lowers for $1k, complete pistols for over $2k. Obviously some may be higher, some lower. Think you'd be very lucky to find anything reasonable. Very similar situation to off-roster pistols.

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                      • #12
                        BigPimping
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 21465

                        Don't cheap out. Just buy a registered AR pistol that is registered semi-auto. You'll thank yourself later.
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                        • #13
                          sbo80
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 2265

                          You're also conflating two different issues with your comments about mag release and mag size. If it's a repeater you can't use your >10 round mags in it when in CA. A semi-auto AR pistol has to be fixed-mag, 10 rounds only or it's an AW.

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30242

                            Originally posted by sbo80
                            Originally posted by 650proof
                            Is it feasible to purchase a single shot and convert it into a repeater since i only have >10 round mags and would like to retain the original mag release when shooting semi out of state
                            You're also conflating two different issues with your comments about mag release and mag size. If it's a repeater you can't use your >10 round mags in it when in CA. A semi-auto AR pistol has to be fixed-mag, 10 rounds only or it's an AW.
                            repeating = has a magazine capacity
                            single-shot = does not have a magazine capacity, cartridges are loaded/unloaded directly from the firearm's chamber

                            If it is made as a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or dimensionally complaint break-open single-shot pistol, then it is illegal to make it into a manually operated (bolt-action) repeating pistol or semi-auto pistol with a fixed magazine. CA DOJ BOF equates modifying SSE2 pistols into another configuration the same as making an illegal usafe handgun.

                            If it's a manually operated repeating pistol (Franklin Armory CA7), then it already has a standard magazine release and it can legally use large capacity magazines.

                            If it's a semi-auto pistol with a fixed magazine, then the magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds.
                            This is because a semi-auto pistol with a fixed magazine of 11+ rounds is an assault weapon. [PC 30515(a)(5)]

                            Also...
                            Although it is legal to take your large capacity magazine out-of-state, it is illegal to bring those large capacity magazines back to CA [PC 32310(a)].
                            Legally, they must be made into permanently modified 10 round magazines before being brought back to CA.
                            Last edited by Quiet; 05-05-2020, 12:29 PM.
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                            • #15
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34908

                              Originally posted by SigSauerP226
                              From what I saw, way more than buying a CA7 and converting that. I had seen lowers for $1k, complete pistols for over $2k. Obviously some may be higher, some lower. Think you'd be very lucky to find anything reasonable. Very similar situation to off-roster pistols.

                              For an AR pistol?

                              That is redonkulous.

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