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  • swmpthng88
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 114

    RIA Builders Kit Question

    I'm looking at buying Rock Island Armory builder's kit for 9mm 1911 to use the upper assembly for my Sig 1911.

    Is there any reason to believe i'll have fitment issues putting the 9mm upper directly onto my Sig without any gunsmithing?
  • #2
    shafferds
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1970

    you will have to fit the parts. newer rock island parts have gotten better but still gotta fit them.

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    • #3
      LateBraking
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2013
      • 1629

      Are you trying to convert a .45 1911 into a 9mm 1911?
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      • #4
        swmpthng88
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 114

        Originally posted by LateBraking
        Are you trying to convert a .45 1911 into a 9mm 1911?
        Yes. Ideally, i'd like to utilize one frame to alternate between .45 and 9mm. I realize it might not be possible by just swapping the uppers due to potential feed ramp issues.

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        • #5
          saudadeii
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Dec 2012
          • 3468

          I think it has a ramped barrel you you'll need to cut your frame to fit.
          My Marketplace Feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...k#post54003245

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          • #6
            hambam105
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7083

            Reminds me of putting 1990s Asiatic hub caps on a 1960s BMW convertible.

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            • #7
              soulbyte
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 848

              Originally posted by swmpthng88
              Yes. Ideally, i'd like to utilize one frame to alternate between .45 and 9mm. I realize it might not be possible by just swapping the uppers due to potential feed ramp issues.
              Not only feed ramp, you'll need a 9mm ejector or modify your 45 ejector. plus the dimensions for your rail might not be the same the ria slide requires. you'll need to get the opening on the slide cut for your rails if you want to keep using the 45 slide.

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              • #8
                jimmykan
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3102

                I hope you have access to a mill.

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                • #9
                  Powder_Keg
                  Senior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2203

                  Just buy a 1911 in 9mm, less headache. What little money you think you will save, it won’t be worth the trouble.

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                  • #10
                    Sailormilan2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3484

                    If the frame is not cut for a ramped barrel, you can find unramped 9mm barrels, throated for use with a 45 acp frame at both Numrich and Remsport. The Remsport barrel will more than likely be a drop in fit, though it may need finish reaming. The barrel from Numrich will need both fitting(not hard to do) and finish reamilng. I think the Numrich barrel is a higher quality barrel, and it is not made by Numrich.
                    The Numrich barrel is what I have used for my convertible set ups. I used 38 Super barrels from from Remsport for the second barrel of my build.
                    Last edited by Sailormilan2; 04-21-2020, 5:07 PM.

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                    • #11
                      swmpthng88
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 114

                      Thanks everyone. Looks like it's in no way a simple swap job. I'll look into a dedicated 9.

                      Thanks again

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                      • #12
                        hntnnut
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1066

                        not many options for those of us in kali.
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                        • #13
                          walmart_ar15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2335

                          Buy a RIA 38 super and swap it out with a 9mm barrel... Problem solved.

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                          • #14
                            AlienHobo
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 695

                            I bought one of those 9mm slide kits from Sarco and use it on my RAI .45 frame.

                            It comes with a non-ramped barrel and the 9mm ejector.

                            It took a LOT of filing, sanding and polishing to get it to fit properly. All the filing was done on the slide and ejector. Once it was fitted, however, it functioned flawlessly and I really enjoy shooting it.

                            ETA: The slide is heavy, so you will have to try different combinations of recoil and hammer springs to find the right mix so it will cycle properly and ignite the primers.
                            Last edited by AlienHobo; 04-22-2020, 9:53 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Sailormilan2
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 3484

                              Originally posted by AlienHobo
                              I bought one of those 9mm slide kits from Sarco and use it on my RAI .45 frame.

                              It comes with a non-ramped barrel and the 9mm ejector.

                              It took a LOT of filing, sanding and polishing to get it to fit properly. All the filing was done on the slide and ejector. Once it was fitted, however, it functioned flawlessly and I really enjoy shooting it.

                              ETA: The slide is heavy, so you will have to try different combinations of recoil and hammer springs to find the right mix so it will cycle properly and ignite the primers.
                              Interesting. I've gotten 2 RIA 9mm slides(one with Novak sight cuts and 40 cal breech face), and both go on my RIA 45 acp frame with no fitting and no problems.

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