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  • tbui
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 39

    30 days wait question

    A friend of mine told me that 30 days wait before you purchase another hand gun does not apply to PPT. Is it true? I just started my 10-days wait for a pistol I bought from an out-of-state saler. So if this is true then I can purchase another hand gun via PPT right?
  • #2
    Gio
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 10251

    PPT has no limits. Happy buying

    -Gio
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    • #3
      Josh3239
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 9200

      Yes it is true. The 30 days applies to buying guns from dealers, not from unliscenced sellers.

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      • #4
        TheBundo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1943

        I believe there is an underground regulation that limits you to 1,000,000 handguns per month through PPT's
        Free Gun & Ammo $$$ from the State
        http://scoweb.sco.ca.gov/UCP/
        See how many CalGunners are finding major money on this thread:
        http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=172513

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          1 in 30 days applies to PPTs done in Los Angeles.


          Also, remember, a PPT is a transfer between two CA residents facilitated by a CA FFL dealer.
          If the firearm was shipped to the CA FFL dealer, then it is not a PPT.
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          • #6
            RangerRoy
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2007
            • 1342

            PPT

            Yes, you can purchase via PPT w/o regards to the 30 day wait.

            If you just purchased a new handgun a few days ago, you can always just pre-pay for the item and have the dealer keep it for you until the allowed DROS date.

            Some dealers will even allow anywhere from 30 days to 60 days of layaway.

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            • #7
              dirtykoala
              Banned
              • Dec 2008
              • 3476

              Sorry for butting into this thread with my own question, its along the same lines though. Is this the same for intra-familial transfers? Can my dad give me 2 pistols at the same time?

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              • #8
                sixniner
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 518

                Originally posted by Quiet
                If the firearm was shipped to the CA FFL dealer, then it is not a PPT.
                Can anyone confirm this? Technically, if the seller is a private party from out-of-state and not a dealer, the 30-day rule still applies?

                TIA

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                • #9
                  dfletcher
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14812

                  Originally posted by sixniner
                  Can anyone confirm this? Technically, if the seller is a private party from out-of-state and not a dealer, the 30-day rule still applies?

                  TIA
                  Currently, you must be a CA resident to either sell a handgun as PPT or receive a handgun as PPT - strictly a CA resident procedure. If the handgun is being sold by a person from another state, it has to go through a CA FFL and would be a dealer sale. The sale can be done by the seller mailing the handgun to a CA FFL dealer or, if the "other state" resident and his gun are physically in CA, by going to a CA FFL dealer and handing it to him to be sold to you. But it would still be a dealer sale, not a PPT. Also, handgun roster requirements would apply.
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                  • #10
                    punisheryayarea
                    In Memoriam
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1932

                    Originally posted by sixniner
                    Can anyone confirm this? Technically, if the seller is a private party from out-of-state and not a dealer, the 30-day rule still applies?

                    TIA
                    If it is a NEW pistol you have to wait 30days between New one only but if you buy a used one then a new one you could buy them at the same time if you wanted.....
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                    • #11
                      tbui
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 39

                      Yes, the 30-day rule applies to out-of-state purchase since you have to go through your FFL dealer. I just did the paper work yesterday for a CZ 75B that I purchased from a out-of-state seller and my FFL guy told me that I have to wait 30 days before I can purchase another one. However, I did not know that the 30-day rule does not apply to F2F PPT. My FFL guy also told me that he will hold the gun for 30-day for me if I was to buy another gun from out-of-state.

                      Originally posted by sixniner
                      Can anyone confirm this? Technically, if the seller is a private party from out-of-state and not a dealer, the 30-day rule still applies?

                      TIA

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                      • #12
                        sixniner
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 518

                        Thank you Caiman for the clarification
                        Tbui - 30-day rule does NOT apply to F2F PPT.

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                        • #13
                          punisheryayarea
                          In Memoriam
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1932

                          Originally posted by tbui
                          Yes, the 30-day rule applies to out-of-state purchase since you have to go through your FFL dealer. I just did the paper work yesterday for a CZ 75B that I purchased from a out-of-state seller and my FFL guy told me that I have to wait 30 days before I can purchase another one. However, I did not know that the 30-day rule does not apply to F2F PPT. My FFL guy also told me that he will hold the gun for 30-day for me if I was to buy another gun from out-of-state.
                          No, just the 10 day waiting .
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                          WTS JL audio 8W7 X2, JL audio 500/1v2, Alpine Ine-940, Stinger Cap!!
                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...5#post17991865
                          WTS SIG MPX CARBINE, SIG MPX PISTOL, NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM PREDATOR, Acog in .308!
                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1186395

                          Originally posted by Grunt81
                          I'm serious.
                          Are you one of those .45 elitists?

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by punisheryayarea
                            If it is a NEW pistol you have to wait 30days between New one only but if you buy a used one then a new one you could buy them at the same time if you wanted.....
                            incorrect. You can't buy a two handguns from a dealer at the same time if one is used. The 1-in-30 applies to all handgun sales/transfers through a dealer, NEW or USED. For instance, you can't buy a used Glock 17 that a dealer has in inventory and also purchase a new handgun within the 30-days.

                            However, there are a couple of exemptions to the state 1-in-30-day law. PPT transfers and cosignments are exempt from it. Another exemption is is you have your C&R FFL + COE, then you are exempt from the 1-in-30 for all handgun purchases/transfers.
                            Jack



                            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              punisheryayarea
                              In Memoriam
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1932

                              Originally posted by ke6guj
                              incorrect. You can't buy a two handguns from a dealer at the same time if one is used. The 1-in-30 applies to all handgun sales/transfers through a dealer, NEW or USED. For instance, you can't buy a used Glock 17 that a dealer has in inventory and also purchase a new handgun within the 30-days.

                              However, there are a couple of exemptions to the state 1-in-30-day law. PPT transfers and cosignments are exempt from it. Another exemption is is you have your C&R FFL + COE, then you are exempt from the 1-in-30 for all handgun purchases/transfers.
                              You are wrong call a gun shop
                              A. Castro Valley Gun Shop - www.castrovalleygunshop.com - (510) 581-1917

                              Andreotti Firearms & Sporting - www.andreottifirearms.com - (510) 537-6964


                              call for your self and ask....
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                              WTS JL audio 8W7 X2, JL audio 500/1v2, Alpine Ine-940, Stinger Cap!!
                              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...5#post17991865
                              WTS SIG MPX CARBINE, SIG MPX PISTOL, NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM PREDATOR, Acog in .308!
                              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1186395

                              Originally posted by Grunt81
                              I'm serious.
                              Are you one of those .45 elitists?

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