HK VP9....the Sig 2022 of HKs?

[igs]

The SP2022 is hammer fired and actually a decent gun. The VP9 is a striker fired POS.

[iareConfusE]

The SP2022 is hammer fired and actually a decent gun. The VP9 is a striker fired POS.

That's pretty damning evidence. Has HK acknowledged this at all and have other people experienced similar results? Maybe his is defective?

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[D.A.V.I.D.]

Strange that you thought that the USPs had garbage triggers...they can be made to be phenomenal by combining certain factory parts, but even stock I've found them to be great.

Compared to what?

[steelholder]

The SP2022 is hammer fired and actually a decent gun. The VP9 is a striker fired POS.

Wow!

[el_clingon]

IMO the VP9 is one of the "Out of the box" handguns. the ergos are the best along the trigger. I have owned 4 VP9's, now i just have two, and the full size is my wife's favorite and i carry the vp9sk. Now, is it a poorman pistol, and my answers is "no"! unless your are LEO, the california prices are at 100% markup...lol It is a well made handgun.

[iareConfusE]

Compared to what?

I happen to think my USP 45 trigger is excellent. For a DA/SA pistol which is pretty much all I own in pistols, it's better than just about any stock trigger I've felt. Much better than any striker fired pistol that's for sure.

Comparing it to the DA/SA guns I've owned or shot, it's better than:
Beretta M9A1, Beretta PX4, HK P2000, CZ P-01, Sig P220, SIG P226, SIG SP2022, etc - too many to list.

Trigger preference is a really subjective thing for a lot of people though. There are some objectively bad triggers, like the stock M&P triggers... Or a Hi-Point, but I think most people have their own idea of what feels good to them. Generally a smooth and relatively short take up to stage the trigger, a crisp and glassy break, and a short tactile reset is what people like, and my USP definitely has all of that (in my opinion).


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The SP2022 is hammer fired and actually a decent gun. The VP9 is a striker fired POS.

[omega]

how does that happen with the firing pin safety? the impact must be enough to move the detent allowing the firing pin to drop?

[steelholder]

Can a calgunner please try to recreate the video above SAFELY and get back to us?

[iareConfusE]

how does that happen with the firing pin safety? the impact must be enough to move the detent allowing the firing pin to drop?

I read on another forum that the striker drops but the FPBS prevents the striker from actually reaching the primer so it doesn't actually go off. How they tested this I don't know and sounds difficult to do with a dummy round.

Regardless, if the striker dropped without hitting the primer, you'd still have a dead trigger when expecting a live trigger. Seems to require a pretty hard whack to the grip of the pistol to produce though, so this seems like more of an issue to hobbyists who are concerned with proper firearm function and not so much an issue of people carrying the firearm unless they threw their gun onto the floor at the perfect angle to drop the striker.

[steelholder]

I read on another forum that the striker drops but the FPBS prevents the striker from actually reaching the primer so it doesn't actually go off. How they tested this I don't know and sounds difficult to do with a dummy round.

Regardless, if the striker dropped without hitting the primer, you'd still have a dead trigger when expecting a live trigger. Seems to require a pretty hard whack to the grip of the pistol to produce though, so this seems like more of an issue to hobbyists who are concerned with proper firearm function and not so much an issue of people carrying the firearm unless they threw their gun onto the floor at the perfect angle to drop the striker.

This seems like a very backwards statement to me, only a hobbyist would be concerned with proper firearm function?

[D.A.V.I.D.]

I’ll try a empty casing with a new primer in it later to see if the striker contacts it.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

That would be great.

[steelholder]

Perfect thanks

[iareConfusE]

This seems like a very backwards statement to me, only a hobbyist would be concerned with proper firearm function?

What I mean is that people who carry it wont really need to worry about this if it's just in their holster. It won't spontaneously drop the striker and would still be a reliable and practical firearm that requires a very specific drop location and force required to cause the striker to drop. A hobbyist gear junkie/gear tester might go out of his way to discover these failures and recreate them.

I'm not saying a person who carries doesn't care about proper function, just that they might not care enough to go out of their way to make their gun purposefully malfunction for the sake of... nothing really. They'll rack a round in, holster, and go.

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