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  • cmace22
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2717

    Trouble getting bore clean

    So here is the situation. I have a 1911 and a glock. Im having a hard time getting all the build up out of the barrel.

    I used the solvent that came in a cleaning Kit (no name) and the bore brush.

    I cycled the bore brush about 10 times with the solvent then used a bore snake to wipe it clean then checked to see if it was clean. No, not even close.

    I did the same thing another 3-4 times and it got better, but all the build up wasnt gone. Fearing damage to the bore if I continued I quit to ask for help. What would be the best solvent/bore brush combo to use and technique. It seems this stuff is being really stubborn.

    I have heard about break free CLP. Any good?
  • #2
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    If you want to bring them to me, we can clean them properly. Boresnakes are good for field cleaning, not real cleaning! Also, it sounds like you are not being aggressive enough. So, either try harder (you won't damage your barrel) or shoot me a PM.
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    • #3
      Beelzy
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      • Apr 2008
      • 9224

      You might try some round brass screens and shove them down the pipe.

      Or maybe try (some think this is sacralidge) a Stainless steel bore brush.

      Yep I said it SS bore brush....so there!
      "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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      • #4
        cmace22
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        • Jan 2008
        • 2717

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        If you want to bring them to me, we can clean them properly. Boresnakes are good for field cleaning, not real cleaning! Also, it sounds like you are not being aggressive enough. So, either try harder (you won't damage your barrel) or shoot me a PM.
        PM sent

        Originally posted by Beelzy
        You might try some round brass screens and shove them down the pipe.

        Or maybe try (some think this is sacralidge) a Stainless steel bore brush.

        Yep I said it SS bore brush....so there!
        Whats a round brass screen?

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Originally posted by Beelzy
          You might try some round brass screens and shove them down the pipe.

          Or maybe try (some think this is sacralidge) a Stainless steel bore brush.

          Yep I said it SS bore brush....so there!
          SS brushes can be your best friend! Some people just get too wrapped up in conventional thinking and old wive's tales to change their opinions. Yes, even gun people can be sheeple!
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          • #6
            jlmurphy
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            • Oct 2005
            • 212

            I would hesitate to use a stainless bore brush, you don't want to use a brush that is harder than the barrel, it may scratch it. Most bore solvents will take care of the powder fouling and some copper fouling, there are more aggressive copper solutions, but in a pistol that is usually not a problem, lead is the toughest. I have found that a copper pot scrubbing pad ( Chore Boy ) wrapped around a bronze will remove the lead in just a few minutes, and there is no danger of scratching because the copper is softer than any barrel.

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
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              I wasn't suggesting to use a SS on his guns yet. I bet I can get them spotlessly clean with a bronze brush and a patched jag. But, there is a time when using a SS brush is the best solution and I've never had any problems using them in my precission rifles.
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              • #8
                cmace22
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                • Jan 2008
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                Should I try soaking the barrels in break free for a while?

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                • #9
                  paintballergb
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1642

                  Is it a nylon brush? If it is this is what you need to do. Unscrew it from your rod, walk outside and throw it in the garbage. The brush that came with my Glock was garbage so I treat it like so.
                  Insert something clever here.

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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    Originally posted by cmace22
                    Should I try soaking the barrels in break free for a while?
                    No. I'd suggest using a non teflon product like kroil or Hoppes if you want to let it soak. Really, without seeing it, all it should take is about five minutes of scrubbing with a brush and a patched jag. I'm assuming that you are having problems removing carbon fouling and not copper fouling. You can use anything like Montana Extreme or even Hoppes #9. If your patches are coming out blue, then it's copper fouling. For that, I have a homebrew which kicks azz.
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                    • #11
                      Ditch
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 169

                      Why cant he just cut a patch of leadaway and send down the barrel? Its great stuff and works well with my stainless guns. I am asking that's all

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        Originally posted by Ditch
                        Why cant he just cut a patch of leadaway and send down the barrel? Its great stuff and works well with my stainless guns. I am asking that's all
                        If it's lead build up, your idea should work. Since he did not say it was lead and he is shooting a Glock, I'm assuming it's not lead build up. He should not be shooting lead through a Glock unless, he knows exactly what he is doing.
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                        • #13
                          Ditch
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                          • Apr 2009
                          • 169

                          10-4 but one more question? why can't you shoot lead with the all mighty Glock? I thought they can even shoot under water with any round used.

                          I understand you where very polite with your answer to my post....but I do wonder

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                          • #14
                            Turbinator
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 11934

                            Originally posted by Ditch
                            10-4 but one more question? why can't you shoot lead with the all mighty Glock? I thought they can even shoot under water with any round used.

                            I understand you where very polite with your answer to my post....but I do wonder
                            Been covered many times, but here goes. The Glock hexagonal rifling tends to accumulate lead build up faster and heavier than conventional rifling. This could lead to higher pressures, and eventually a failure of the barrel to contain this pressure - resulting in a catastrophic failure.

                            Two options:

                            1) Don't shoot lead through your Glock

                            2) Replace the barrel with an aftermarket that has standard, traditional rifling

                            Turby

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                            • #15
                              greybeard
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1086

                              What I finally started doing is after running bronze brush through 12 times, let the barrel sit while I gun the rest of the gun. I then run several wet patches ant the dry ones. if after the third dry patch, it still dirty, I repeat from the beginning letting sit 10 minutes.
                              John

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