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  • bongfoo
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 969

    moonclips vs speed loaders

    hello all,
    well as the title says, i'm picking up my first revolver on the 7th. it just happens to be a S&W686. i was wondering.... i know i can use speedloaders with the 686 but what about moonclips? and one more question. seeing as how a 38 special, 357 magnum, and 9mm luger all have the same diameter casing/bullet. i can fire the 38 and 357 out of the 686 but what about the 9mm? i noticed that it does have a different rim area. i have heard some ppl talk about shooting 9mm out of their 686. do i have to have anything done to it? could someone edumacate me on this subject?
  • #2
    rivviepop
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 2528

    An unaltered 686 like you're picking up can only use speedloaders, and will not chamber a 9mm round. If you wish to use moonclips you'll have to send the cylinder off to a place like tkcustom.com to get a channel cut out of it (they have a cool video showing them machining the cylinder). They will also bore out the cylinder to allow you to shoot 9mm, but then you can't shoot 38/357; the 9mm base is wider than a 38 base.

    See here: http://www.moonclips.com/content/machine.asp

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    • #3
      bongfoo
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 969

      that was a cool video! so i'm guessing i should buy a second cylinder maybe a third. have them machined out for the moonclips and then have one of them bored out for 9mm. that will leave me with the origional cylinder for if i ever want to sell it (yeah right!)

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      • #4
        tiko
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 866

        When you shoot 9mm on a 686 it does not have great accuracy, my friend got a second cylinder made for 9mm head space ( no moon clip needed ), but he isn't pleased with its accuracy. The 9mm bullet diameter is .355, the 38/357 bullet is .357 ( .358 with lead bullet). 0.002 can make a difference.
        Do it yourself.

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        • #5
          railroader
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3115

          Originally posted by tiko
          When you shoot 9mm on a 686 it does not have great accuracy, my friend got a second cylinder made for 9mm head space ( no moon clip needed ), but he isn't pleased with its accuracy. The 9mm bullet diameter is .355, the 38/357 bullet is .357 ( .358 with lead bullet). 0.002 can make a difference.
          When I had my 686 I have loaded 9mm bullets into 38 cases. The accuracy definitely isn't on par with 38 cal bullets. Mark

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          • #6
            bongfoo
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 969

            has anyone tried loading 357 bullets in 9mm casings???

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            • #7
              precisionshooter308
              Junior Member
              • May 2009
              • 63

              My 686p was converted by TK custom. WAY COOL. You can still use speed loaders if you want or loose ammo. Well worth the money.
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              • #8
                Lucky Scott
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 2610

                Wow, nice setup. Something to think about.
                I am happy with the .38 so not really into converting to a 9mm but I really like the moon clip deal!

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                • #9
                  762cavalier
                  NRA Training Counselor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3626

                  Originally posted by bongfoo
                  has anyone tried loading 357 bullets in 9mm casings???
                  would only work with lead bullets and you may have to size them down a bit. 9mm bullets are .355-.357bullets are .357-.358 It would work and I know of a few cast bullet shooters who use .357bullets sized down with some decent results.
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