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  • #46
    eaglemike
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    • Jan 2008
    • 3897

    It has a good chance of being better balanced than the 929.
    I prefer the balance of the 986 to the 929.
    It's be nice if IDPA changed the rules to allow moonclips without higher power factor, although the barrel is too long for this one to be legal in revolver class.
    There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

    It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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    • #47
      eaglemike
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      • Jan 2008
      • 3897

      Originally posted by Dirtlaw
      I'm not overly excited about moon clips though. Hard to find in the stores.
      Online/phone is the way to go. Most retail stores have little love for wheelguns.
      If/when Ranch Products comes out with some, share an order with someone else. Buying them a few at a time gets pricey......
      There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

      It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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      • #48
        357magnum
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 1219

        The cylinder reminds me of the S&W 627 "N" frame 357 magnum.
        The Super GP100 in 357 magnum looks a lot better.
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        • #49
          IVC
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 17594

          Originally posted by Dirtlaw
          I'm not overly excited about moon clips though. Hard to find in the stores.
          You can't compare the reloading speed between moon clips and any other method, including speed loaders. Also, you can't extract 9mm using the extraction star since there is nothing to catch on - 9mm is rimless (look up S&W 547 for an exception, though).

          Moon clips are your friend. People cut their 357/38 cylinders for them all the time.
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          • #50
            IVC
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 17594

            Originally posted by eaglemike
            It has a good chance of being better balanced than the 929.
            That's a preference. I actually really appreciate the extra front weight of 929 as it allows for very fast follow-up shots. Transitions with heavier guns require correct technique, though. You have to drive transitions from your legs.
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            • #51
              eaglemike
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              • Jan 2008
              • 3897

              Originally posted by IVC
              That's a preference. I actually really appreciate the extra front weight of 929 as it allows for very fast follow-up shots. Transitions with heavier guns require correct technique, though. You have to drive transitions from your legs.
              Agree. It's preference, and what one gets used to shooting.
              When I was shooting a lot I preferred the 5". I really liked the 610's in 5". They were sweet.
              A 5" barrel is plenty long enough to be accurate for 50 yard shots. The balance of the Ruger looks like it might be between the L frame and N frame, plus having the velocity of the 6".
              There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

              It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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              • #52
                bb557
                • Aug 2017
                • 485

                Wow, that takes a while to get used to.

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                • #53
                  eaglemike
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                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3897

                  Originally posted by IVC
                  This gun is supposedly built to address all the observed weaknesses of the S&W revolvers in competition. I've been told this by the same guy who told me the new 9mm was coming, so I personally believe it. Would like to see the engineering details if I can get my hands on one...
                  Just had another thought about this - I wonder what spec's they are going to use for the chambers/throats. 9mm brass and chambers vary a fair bit. Somewhere I have the drawings for 9mm brass and chamber (gauges and reamers too). I've seen some chambers pretty big and long. I hope they control the size to some sort of reasonably useful size for people that shoot a lot of lead. It doesn't have to be bad for factory jacketed - I've seen some S&W 625's with shorter chambers than some others, and the shorter/tighter chamber shoots better with lead. The 627 in .38 super had a loose barrel, and lots of wheelguns have throats that are too small for shooting lead well.

                  What do you think?
                  There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                  It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                  • #54
                    M76
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 5954

                    Originally posted by Old Flash
                    I don't know, that's quite a discount from the suggested retail of $1549.00. It's a very nice looking pistol; hopefully it gets added to our roster.


                    I'd hunt for a Ruger Security Six 9mm before dropping that kinda coin
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                    • #55
                      hambam105
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7083

                      Originally posted by Robert1234
                      Why would a newbie with an inferior gun (6 rounds vs. 8 in a competition gun equals more reloads, which makes the six round gun inferior for the application) beat you shooting this gun?

                      Serious question.
                      Robert1234

                      Serious Answer:

                      Some would sum up the answer with something akin to:
                      "It's the Indian, not the Arrow".

                      Course designs and rule books favor those that sell things to the competitors.

                      As for your..."gun interior for the application"...It would not take very long or require too much
                      imagination to develop an ICORE course of fire or entire Match where a 8 shot cylinder was
                      no advantage over a 6 or even a 5 shot cylinder.

                      Low round count, mandatory reloads between targets, and incorporating more 'Virginia Count'
                      COFs are but a few course development open secrets.
                      Last edited by hambam105; 12-27-2019, 1:08 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Carcassonne
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4897

                        Originally posted by Old Flash
                        I don't know, that's quite a discount from the suggested retail of $1549.00. It's a very nice looking pistol; hopefully it gets added to our roster.
                        Nice revolver, but half that price is still too much for me.




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                        • #57
                          Scratch705
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2009
                          • 12520

                          Originally posted by Old Flash
                          I don't know, that's quite a discount from the suggested retail of $1549.00. It's a very nice looking pistol; hopefully it gets added to our roster.
                          well 2a zone stated in this thread that it will be $1199 after the SAE conversion.

                          so free state price may be in the $1,000-$1,100 range.

                          which i believe is the cheapest 9mm revolver with a 5 inch or longer barrel in production that i can think of.
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                          • #58
                            waygeekierthanu
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 2718

                            Originally posted by Scratch705
                            well 2a zone stated in this thread that it will be $1199 after the SAE conversion.



                            so free state price may be in the $1,000-$1,100 range.



                            which i believe is the cheapest 9mm revolver with a 5 inch or longer barrel in production that i can think of.
                            We don't charge extra for sae if you buy from us, I would expect this to be pretty close to free state pricing

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                            • #59
                              Old Flash
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1223

                              Originally posted by waygeekierthanu
                              It will sell for $1,199 converted to single action, just to answer that question. It will be roster exempt

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                              Originally posted by Scratch705
                              well 2a zone stated in this thread that it will be $1199 after the SAE conversion.

                              so free state price may be in the $1,000-$1,100 range.

                              which i believe is the cheapest 9mm revolver with a 5 inch or longer barrel in production that i can think of.
                              Originally posted by waygeekierthanu
                              We don't charge extra for sae if you buy from us, I would expect this to be pretty close to free state pricing

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                              Even at that pricing, it'll be interesting to see what will be the availability here for this new model pistol which is roster exempt.
                              I haven't found any reviews of this pistol yet, so that might make some buyers wait a bit or maybe not, lol.
                              Last edited by Old Flash; 12-27-2019, 6:54 PM.

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                              • #60
                                splithoof
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2015
                                • 5393

                                Originally posted by hambam105
                                Robert1234
                                Course designs and rule books favor those that sell things to the competitors.
                                My mentor in the administration of shooting events, the late Michael Horne of Bakersfield, Ca., had the solution to such issues: "The event is going to be held at a certain place & time (to be announced a few days prior); show up at the meeting location, and a proctor will escort you through the scenarios. Bring what you carry, in the manner you carry it. That is all."
                                If there was a specific need for a certain amount of ammunition, that might be stated, but not much else. Certainly all COF's were never released prior. Made things interesting, and fun.
                                I'll not comment on this latest offering from Ruger.

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