I got my first......

[chrisdesoup]

I brought home my first wheel gun tonight...


I called a buddy of mine and he said only old people have those.. What a jerk!

I have a question for the revolver crowd.......

I was hunting for ammo after we left the shop and had one guy tell me (another customer, I should know better to listen to them but..) I should not run .357Mag ammo through it... WTF is this guy talking about! It says .357Magnum? He started in about "crimp jump" and how scandium snubbies are too light to shoot .357mag.... when it was my turn at the counter I asked the guy for some .357mag he said they are out (just like everyone else) I started to ask about the crimp jump thing and try to call the guy out about what he said but the shop phone rang and I just said whatever, I want to go home and eat dinner.


My question is that guy correct or is he just spewing FUD? I am google'n now but would like to hear what y'all have to say as well.

Thanks

Chris

[liketoshoot]

Well he's kinda right, he might be trying to save you from getting beat up by the kick it will have, I have a 340PD and it kicks hard, so I use mostly .38's thru her.
Oh yea, Nice, very nice!

[Greg-Dawg]

Nice pistola.

Is that a 386 Night Guard? How much do they go for?

[cmace22]

If you do a search the topic will come up. From what I have read some of the ultra light framed revolvers can and have had the bullets move forward from the casing causing jams.

[45_acp]

thats a beauty have fun shooting

[chrisdesoup]

Well he's kinda right, he might be trying to save you from getting beat up by the kick it will have, I have a 340PD and it kicks hard, so I use mostly .38's thru her.
Oh yea, Nice, very nice!

Thank you! After a night of googl'n you would be correct, the kick is going to kick my arse and with hotter loads it might lead to "crimp jump" or "crimp creep".

Nice pistola.

Is that a 386 Night Guard? How much do they go for?

It's identical to the night guard... I overpaid just over $950.

thats a beauty have fun shooting

Thank you and I will!

[mike100]

38 spl/357mag is ideal for reloading anyhow. I like to load up a "75 percent" power 357magnum. way more than 38+p, but not too hot either.

I've never experienced crimp jump, but I think it could happen on snubby 44 mag and 500 s&w since those projectiles have a bit more mass to them. It is all academic as you will probably only shoot magnum loads in that gun once.

[snowdog650]

Very nice!

[xxdabroxx]

the price tag hurts, but i would really like to have one of those someday.

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[1911su16b870]

38 spl/357mag is ideal for reloading anyhow. I like to load up a "75 percent" power 357magnum. way more than 38+p, but not too hot either.

I've never experienced crimp jump, but I think it could happen on snubby 44 mag and 500 s&w since those projectiles have a bit more mass to them. It is all academic as you will probably only shoot magnum loads in that gun once.

+1 my experience also with the 38/357. I use 5.0 gr W231 in a 357 case, kind of like a 38 +P and no 38 ring to clean!

[rustycase]

Nice little revolver!
I NEED one of those.

If you're concerned with crimp jump, stake your hotties for SD use?

[BillCA]

Congrats on a nice gun!

Per S&W, don't use ammo with less that 120gr bullets to prevent throat erosion. They warn about bullets pulling out of their cases and how to determine if your ammo is suitable for an alloy gun.

What some have found is that the sudden recoil from heavier bullets acellerates the gun rearward fast enough that the gun acts almost like a bullet-puller. This is less of a problem for lighter bullets.

Solutions are to use lighter, 125-140g bullets or to find ammo with a substantial crimp and/or adhesive in the case mouth to prevent the problem.

If you reload, moving from a fast burning powder (Titegroup, Unique, Universal Clays) to something slightly slower like Herco, Longshot or Blue Dot and using a very firm crimp should help reduce bullet pull.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

"Crimp jump" or "bullet jump" is what happens with light revolvers (like your 386 Sc/S) and heavy bullets that aren't crimped tightly enough. As you fire the gun the heavier bullets tend to want to 'jump' or move forward under recoil (basic Newtonian physics here - body at rest and all that). What happens is that usually the last round or last two rounds in a 6 shooter will bind up the cylinder rotation and the gun becomes a paperweight. Why the last round? Because it's been subject to the recoil from the previous 5 shots and so the bullet has moved the farthest out of the crimp.
This is not a disaster; it's actually very easy to fix (wooden dowel, brass hammer, easy peasy). Or just stick to the lighter bullets in .357. 38 Special shouldn't really be a problem, but if it is, stay away from the 158grs and stick to the 110s and 130s.

Oh and I have that exact same 386 Sc/2 7 shot, Scandium frame with a blackened Stainless Steel cylinder; S&W only made it for a year or so before they decided to make the Nightguard series - It's not *exactly* like the Nightguard: I'm in the process of home brewing my own 386 Nightguard by installing the Cylinder & Slide Extreme Duty rear sight, the XS Sight Systems standard dot front sight and a set of Pachys.

Shoot the heck out of it.

[lunde]

Very nice. What you have is effectively a Scandium version of the 686P 2.5" revolver (without the full lug):



QBG and I got our 386 Sc/S revolvers at about the same time, and from the same dealer. The 386 Night Guard has three differences: the grip, the rear sight, and the front sight. The rear sight is Cylinder & Slide's Extreme Duty Fixed rear sight (with rounded notch, I think), and the front sight is an XS standard tritium dot.

I bought the 386 Sc/S as a lighter-weight companion for my 686P 2.5" revolver.

[tonelar]

Nice wheelgun, does it have the integral lock?

S&W's Airlite .44 special advises against heavier than 200grn .44 specials for the same reason.