Glock Laser Sight

[micro911]

If you are having issues with focusing on sights.. Maybe an RMR type2 mounted on the slide would work for you? Most often it would not require a change in holster. If it does, a slight modification is all that would be needed.

With regards to your query about other lasers, I would have to say the crimson trace unit would be the most robust of the laser products currently available in the market today, that does not necessitate a change in holster.

The lasermax, isn't one that I would depend on, especially for self defense.

A red dot sight will be a game changer for you, especially with eyesight issues.

I guess that is a viable option, too. I may have to have my gunsmith friend to mill a RMR slot on my slide. I also have a PPQ and a P320 with RMR cut already. Maybe I should try them.

[Erion929]

-— I recently put a Crimson Trace Grip Laser (red) on my CCW G26.

Pros: no effect on CCW printing....easy to activate with thumb web of dominant hand.... good accuracy for SD....can block laser beam with straight trigger finger if needing stealth....ONE point of aim focus, put the dot on target and GO....can aim firearm without eyes directly behind normal sights, such as when in an off-angle crouch/prone/corner

Cons: slightly bulk makes reach to mag release difficult....reliance on battery (but actual battery use time is small)



-— I also run a G19.5 MOS with a Holosun RDS (and have a Canik TP9SFX with Vortex Viper)....sweet circle/dot reticle....holds zero....very, very accurate!.....ONE point of focus, put dot on target and GO....no effect on CCW printing.....Holosun 507c has Shake Awake technology, i.e., reticle is off when dormant and pops on with movement.

Cons: still need to have eyes behind RDS to aim, reliance on battery (although this unit is supposed to last over 5 years on 1 battery)



—- Both systems have their pros for use....and small cons.

The laser is easy and useful, especially if less than good eyesight without glasses....such as perhaps awakened at night....and you don’t have to line up night sights in an adrenaline rush.

The RDS is awesome for fast, simple, accurate shots.



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[micro911]

I tried a red dot sight on a gen4 Glock 34. I had a hard time getting used to it. I sold the package.

[Mute]

You'd be better off with a red dot sight.

[dozer wright]

I have a Crimson trace Laser grip in red on a Glock 29 it is damn near perfect. Works in holster can run a light if need be. Can see it 20 ft out in day light . I also have Tlr 2 with a green laser on a Glock 20 . For people saying that the laser only is in correct alignment for the poa vs poi at one Distance this is true of all sights. Unless your adjusting elevation on the fly on your pistol.
I'll also add this . Your point of aim for your Laser where it hits target should be different.
Think of this if your laser and bullet hit the same place at say 5ft at 20 ft it could be a foot off .
Your laser and sights should align as they do on the Firearm or as close as possible.
For my Crimson trace . Laser hits about 1 inch low and 1 inch left of sights.
For Tlr 2 it's about 2 inches vertical like this : that way your laser and sights dont do this x .

[us3]

Shameless plug..

I have a Crimson Trace Rail Master Pro Universal Laser Sight + Tactical Light CMR-205 I'm looking to sell for less than half of new. (purchased 2016 with low use)


Comparing it to a TLR-2 HL

Pros:
much smaller and lighter
laser is much brighter and bigger


Cons:
light far less bright
plastic compared to aluminum housing


I prefer a RDS now but it did take some time getting used to. I think a RDS would be cumbersome for carry though.

Matt

[code_blue]

micro, you're retired and have plenty of time to train with an MRDS. You had a hard time getting used to it because it's different than what you're used to.

You might have had a hard time finding the dot. That's because your body is not in a natural position based on your years going 10-8 and what you were taught. Bring your head up and neutral then bring the gun up with wrists locked and you will see the dot.

Now, this system is designed to be target focused, not front sight focused like we're used to. You superimpose the dot on the target. This is the natural "fight or flight" visual reference. We stare at the target under duress, not the front sight.

I'd say to try it again. The cost of milling and refinishing a slide is often close to just buying a replacement, already cut slide outright (You get to keep your old slide this way). An RMR can be had for $300-450 depending on type and where you get it.

It might cost as much as a new pistol, but sometimes it is what we have to do. Besides, crimson trace grips also cost $2-300-ish.

Good luck, old timer. Enjoy retirement.

[Erion929]

I think a RDS would be cumbersome for carry though.

Matt

It’s not. The RDS adds nothing to the printing of the gun....and you do not feel the RDS housing on your body

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[fmunk]

You'd be better off with a red dot sight.

Think about it. The laser isn't just for aiming.

[micro911]

micro, you're retired and have plenty of time to train with an MRDS.

I am too busy spoiling my first grandchild, a girl. hahaha

[rlewpolar]

[Hunt]

I guess that is a viable option, too. I may have to have my gunsmith friend to mill a RMR slot on my slide. I also have a PPQ and a P320 with RMR cut already. Maybe I should try them.

I have eye sight problems also, the red dot is one very good solution. Try it out before cutting / ruining a serialized factory slide. You can get rear sight plates so you can mount an RMR without cutting the slide. I found the RMR too slow for typical handgun self defense distances, so I switched to XS big dot sights and will supplement with a laser. I found dry fire practicing really helps with the vision problem. I have worked on solving this vision problem for a while and my conclusions are, at typical SD encounters / distances instinctive point shooting is the skill to build. The RMR is just too slow unless you have the time to practice a lot and for me that would be way too much time. The Big dot sights solve the vision problem with a little practice and in a point shoot that big dot will be in the peripheral vision. The laser allows unorthodox shooting positions and greatly aid in point shooting practice and trigger control practice. Laser not meant to be a primary sighting method, that is reserved for point shooting / big dots.

[Erion929]

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A good laser I can recommend is the Crimson Trace Railmaster CMR-206, green laser. Fits perfectly on the the G17, easy activation, very bright, lightweight, holds zero perfectly and cheap. The only downside is that you have to activate the laser by pushing a button but the control is right near the trigger guard and very easy and intuitive to turn on. The main upside to this unit as opposed to the Crimson Trace Lasergrips is that your finger won’t block the beam when keeping your finger off the trigger and alongside the frame since the Railmaster is mounted on the rail. I’m a big fan of these.

You are going to need a new holster if you want to carry it but hey, you can’t have it all. A good holster maker that will make you a perfectly fitting kydex holster to accommodate this laser and your G17 is Multiholsters. I have a number of them and they are always spot on.

Actually, with the LaserGrip, I take it as an advantage that you can block the laser with your trigger finger, if you need to stay stealthy.

Also, the activation with the palm grip is automatic....no button to push.

And with the LaserGrip, you can use your normal holster....don’t need to buy a special one.

But yeah, lasers and RDS definitely have their uses....simpler sighting, with one plane of focus instead of two.


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[rlewpolar]

[Mute]

Think about it. The laser isn't just for aiming.

Lasers are not useless but they're a niche product. OP is looking for something to help with his inability to focus on iron sights. Lasers are a poor substitute for that with its many limitations. RDS have less limitations and can be a viable substitute for iron sights.