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  • #31
    waveslayer
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1728

    Hellcat or P365.... I do like the G48 and G43... but I EDC with the P365... love it

    My wife thinks I only have 3 guns

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    • #32
      AFTII
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 1617

      Originally posted by Chewy65
      Isn't the Hellcat magazine illegal?
      Aren't you a lawyer? Look it up. California Penal Code 32310 PC

      Edit: The response to your post requires knowing where your hypothetical person intends to apply for a CCW. All of the issuing authorities have different rules. When I applied for and was issued a CCW, any gun that was registered to me was fair game for my IA. Then they changed the rules and said no off roster guns. Then they backed away from that slightly and said no single shot exempt guns. So, there is no universal answer in my experience.

      I now live in free America and could carry anything I want, any way I want. Most times I carry a P365. Even with a 12 round mag its very concealable. I can sit with it and not be uncomfortable or print. I carry using the P365 in a Simply Rugged Cuda holster OWB. A tee shirt is all I need to cover the holster in the summer. I'm 5' 9' and weigh 190. Why P365? It's smaller, has a better trigger, higher capacity and better sights than a "comparable" Glock.

      I wouldn't buy a P365 SAS. If you have to shoot from retention, the gases being vented from the barrel compensator cuts could toast your nipples. The SAS sight is not conventional, is not adjustable, and can be difficult to see (I've had issues picking up the sight in a gun store, but have yet to shoot one). Finally, and perhaps the best reason to buy the standard model, is because Sig sells a bare SAS slide for $249 in its store. The slide has no compensator cuts and works with you original barrel and spring. You can try the sight without shelling out big bucks for the gun and then deciding it doesn't work for you. FWIW, I have a P365 with a safety and one without. Neither has ever snagged during the draw stroke. YMMV.

      When the optical ready Hellcats become more available, I'll probably buy one, because there are days when my tired old eyes have difficulty picking up the front site. With practice, picking up the dot is quicker and more accurate.
      Last edited by AFTII; 12-16-2019, 7:56 AM.

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      • #33
        Garandimal
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 2145

        For general CC/EDC:

        - Glock G48 (They have aftermarket steel 15-round mags now)
        - Sig P365-XL

        For deep concealment:

        - Sig P938




        GR


        (I think, therefore I am armed.)


        -- Lt. Col. Dave Grossman --

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        • #34
          GlockN'Roll
          Veteran Member
          • May 2015
          • 3717

          Originally posted by morrcarr67
          It's off to a pretty good job.




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          Sig P365 8,500 Round Review By Firearms Engineer and Instructor:
          Real Californian...

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          • #35
            pzbike
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 640

            My best shooting 9mm, and the only one I ever carry, is a Beretta 92F Compact.

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            • #36
              Chewy65
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2013
              • 5080

              Originally posted by AFTII
              Aren't you a lawyer? Look it up. California Penal Code 32310 PC

              Edit: The response to your post requires knowing where your hypothetical person intends to apply for a CCW. All of the issuing authorities have different rules. When I applied for and was issued a CCW, any gun that was registered to me was fair game for my IA. Then they changed the rules and said no off roster guns. Then they backed away from that slightly and said no single shot exempt guns. So, there is no universal answer in my experience.

              I now live in free America and could carry anything I want, any way I want. Most times I carry a P365. Even with a 12 round mag its very concealable. I can sit with it and not be uncomfortable or print. I carry using the P365 in a Simply Rugged Cuda holster OWB. A tee shirt is all I need to cover the holster in the summer. I'm 5' 9' and weigh 190. Why P365? It's smaller, has a better trigger, higher capacity and better sights than a "comparable" Glock.

              I wouldn't buy a P365 SAS. If you have to shoot from retention, the gases being vented from the barrel compensator cuts could toast your nipples. The SAS sight is not conventional, is not adjustable, and can be difficult to see (I've had issues picking up the sight in a gun store, but have yet to shoot one). Finally, and perhaps the best reason to buy the standard model, is because Sig sells a bare SAS slide for $249 in its store. The slide has no compensator cuts and works with you original barrel and spring. You can try the sight without shelling out big bucks for the gun and then deciding it doesn't work for you. FWIW, I have a P365 with a safety and one without. Neither has ever snagged during the draw stroke. YMMV.

              When the optical ready Hellcats become more available, I'll probably buy one, because there are days when my tired old eyes have difficulty picking up the front site. With practice, picking up the dot is quicker and more accurate.
              That bit about the SAS was very helpful. As for suggesting that I should look up the Penal Code section. I only asked about the legality of the Hellcat's standard 11 round magazine for the benefit of all the posters who suggested it as an EDC. Myself, I didn't need to look up the PC. Your point about different IAs not approving off roster guns is also a very good point.

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              • #37
                357manny
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 1676

                P365 before he heads over the border.
                If he can, purchase 4, due to the whole, "Two is one, and one is none..."


                Plus he has two more for parts, or to give to his wife, or something.
                this is a signature

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                • #38
                  Stumpfenhammer
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 1019

                  I sold a Shield and G43 before settling on the P365, which is what I recommend (and/or P365XL if he likes the feel of it). Personally I'd avoid the P365 SAS, it's the answer to a non-existent problem and I've read enough reviews that the sights aren't what I'd want for low-light conditions.

                  If it were me I'd also bring a G34 MOS Gen 5 and CZ Shadow II, both rare as hen's teeth here and easy to sell at a nice profit if gets tired of them. And if he gets the competition bug he'll be set.

                  I have a P320 Compact and I'm not a huge fan of it, prefer the Gen 5 G19 and those bring more for resale as well. The Springfield Hellcat looks nice online, haven't shot one though.

                  This may be his last opportunity to have what he wants without the expense and hassle of finding an off-roster gun with a private party. Spend now, be happy later.
                  Last edited by Stumpfenhammer; 12-16-2019, 4:10 PM.
                  FOR SALE - Orange County

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