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  • phdo
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    • Jan 2010
    • 3870

    STI 2011 Beavertail Issue

    So I just dropped my Combat Master on its beavertail and this happened. Anyone know how to fix?

  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23518

    Looks like the tab broke off the grip safety. It is normally captured by the main spring housing and prevents the grip safety from doing exactly what it is doing now.

    It is hard to say with the low res, poorly lit photo. But if so, you need a new grip safety. Hopefully the replacement drops in and blends with the frame.
    Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-08-2019, 8:52 PM.
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    • #3
      buffybuster
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2615

      Presuming nothing broken, remove the slide, pull the safety, reset the sear spring, refit the grip safety, refit the safety, function check.

      If the grip safety is broken, then send it back to STI for them to fit and BLEND the new part. Dropping in a new part will not result in a nice blend.
      Luck favors the prepared.

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      • #4
        phdo
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        • Jan 2010
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        STI 2011 Beavertail Issue

        Originally posted by SkyHawk
        Looks like the tab broke off the grip safety. It is hard to say with the low res, poorly lit photo. But if so, you need a new grip safety. Hopefully the replacement drops in and blends with the frame.

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        • #5
          phdo
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          • Jan 2010
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          Originally posted by buffybuster
          Presuming nothing broken, remove the slide, pull the safety, reset the sear spring, refit the grip safety, refit the safety, function check.

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
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            • Sep 2012
            • 23518

            You need to take the gun apart, inspect everything in detail. I don’t see how the grip safety swings out like that without something being broken.
            Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-08-2019, 8:58 PM.
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            • #7
              buffybuster
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              • Oct 2005
              • 2615

              Remove the grips, pull the mainspring housing to remove pressure on the hammer. If this is unfamiliar, then disregard what I said; box it up and send it to a gunsmith.
              Luck favors the prepared.

              The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

              "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23518

                Originally posted by buffybuster
                Remove the grips, pull the mainspring housing to remove pressure on the hammer. If this is unfamiliar, then disregard what I said; box it up and send it to a gunsmith.
                I see what he is saying - he cannot COCK the hammer because the beavertail is in the way. So he cannot remove the slide. Not sure if he can even remove the thumb safety because that would require the hammer to be back. So he can’t get the sear/hammer pins or anything out either.

                If he cannot jimmy the grip safety back in a bit, he may need to cut the tang of the grip safety off.

                This should be fun....

                Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-08-2019, 9:02 PM.
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                • #9
                  phdo
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  Originally posted by buffybuster
                  Remove the grips, pull the mainspring housing to remove pressure on the hammer. If this is unfamiliar, then disregard what I said; box it up and send it to a gunsmith.

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                  • #10
                    phdo
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    Originally posted by SkyHawk
                    I see what he is saying - he cannot COCK the hammer because the beavertail is in the way. So he cannot remove the slide. Not sure if he can even remove the thumb safety because that would require the hammer to be back.

                    If he cannot jimmy the grip safety back in a bit, he may need to cut the tang of the grip safety off.

                    This should be fun....

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                    • #11
                      SkyHawk
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 23518

                      Originally posted by phdo
                      The hammer is cocked. I can’t drop the hammer without disengaging the grip safety.
                      In the photo you posted, the hammer is not cocked. It may be half cocked. And if the hammer is cocked, it isn’t the normal operation of the grip safety that is preventing the trigger from being pulled, because the tang of the grip safety is not in the position to block the trigger bow that I can see.
                      Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-08-2019, 9:08 PM.
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                      • #12
                        phdo
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        In the photo you posted, the hammer is not cocked.


                        I know. I was trying to fix it and somehow managed to cocked the hammer. I was gripping the slide trying to get the beavertail back in.

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                        • #13
                          SkyHawk
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 23518

                          Originally posted by phdo
                          I know. I was trying to fix it and somehow managed to cocked the hammer. I was gripping the slide trying to get the beavertail back in.
                          Then remove slide assembly, remove grips, remove MSH (which will be under serious spring pressure), remove thumb safety, remove hammer / sear / disconnector. Inspect and reassemble.

                          You may not need to remove grips if that is the MSH pin down there exposed, and the MSH can slide out without removing the grips. It looks like those grips wrap around the back strap / MSH though?

                          Sorry I am not real familiar with 2011. Hopefully it does not have integral MSH. I do see a flash of plastic up there where the grip safety tab would have had to pass by. Hopefully that was not what was retaining the grip safety. Because something had to give for it to end up that way.
                          Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-08-2019, 9:15 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Cincinnatus
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 704

                            Send it back, include a $20 as an apology for being clumsy.

                            That being said, I personally wouldn't trust a gun that partially disassembled in a drop.
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                            • #15
                              phdo
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3870

                              Originally posted by SkyHawk
                              Then remove slide assembly, remove grips, remove MSH (which will be under serious spring pressure), remove thumb safety, remove hammer / sear / disconnector. Inspect and reassemble.

                              You may not need to remove grips if that is the MSH pin down there exposed, and the MSH can slide out without removing the grips.

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