P80 build

[omalley72]

[floogy]

How did you manage to embed the stainless steel?

[Quiet]

I’m interested in building out a P80. Does anyone know how long it takes the state to issue a serial number? I know once it’s issued I only have 10 days to get the serial number engraved. The engraving is done by appointment so I’m trying to plan ahead.

If you want to legally build it as a semi-auto pistol; it needs to have all CA mandated safety features (Chamber Load Indicator, Magazine Disconnect Mechanism, Microstamping Array) and pass CA DOJ safety testing.

In order to avoid those requirements, you can build it as a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol and, while in CA, keep them configured as such to remain CA legal.

In addition to all of that, the CA DOJ provided serial number needs to be marked/engraved on 3.7oz of PH 17-4 stainless steel that is embedded in the receiver in such a manner that removal will significantly damage or destroy the receiver.
^No commerically available "80%" polymer receiver meets this requirement.


Since 07-01-2018, because of the 3.7oz PH 17-4 stainless steel requirement, no "80%" polymer style receiver/frame can be used to make a CA legal firearm.

[jumbopanda]

Forget about it. The law as its written requires you to "embed" an amount of stainless steel in the frame that is physically impossible.

[omalley72]

From what I’ve been told from employees at the Glock Store, with the V2 of the P80 frame, all that is required is that I engrave the issues serial number in the steel plate that is embedded into the V2 frame. Is that not correct?

[painkiller]

I think these are are only sse after making them,hopefully someone else chimes in

[edgerly779]

I saw them at ventura gun show yes sse only.

[Quiet]

From what I’ve been told from employees at the Glock Store, with the V2 of the P80 frame, all that is required is that I engrave the issues serial number in the steel plate that is embedded into the V2 frame. Is that not correct?

It meets Federal requirements and it met CA requirements that were in effect before 07-01-2018.

Starting 07-01-2018, the steel plate has to be made of 3.7oz of PH 17-4 stainless steel. [PC 29180(b)(2)(B)]
^This requirement makes all P80 polymer receivers no longer eligible to be used to legally self-make a firearm in CA by a non-exempt person.

[jimbo74]

The 80% ship has sailed in California

[smittty]

If you want to legally build it as a semi-auto pistol; it needs to have all CA mandated safety features (Chamber Load Indicator, Magazine Disconnect Mechanism, Microstamping Array) and pass CA DOJ safety testing.

In order to avoid those requirements, you can build it as a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol and, while in CA, keep them configured as such to remain CA legal.

In addition to all of that, the CA DOJ provided serial number needs to be marked/engraved on 3.7oz of PH 17-4 stainless steel that is embedded in the receiver in such a manner that removal will significantly damage or destroy the receiver.
^No commerically available "80%" polymer receiver meets this requirement.


Since 07-01-2018, because of the 3.7oz PH 17-4 stainless steel requirement, no "80%" polymer style receiver/frame can be used to make a CA legal firearm.

No on the first part, but yes it's too late to build a polymer80 due to the embedded metal requirement.

Metal frames pistols are still legal to build yourself.

[jsigone]

I’d build a 80% 2011 but gets expensive pretty quick same like a Gucci Glock so guess it’s a wash but one is legal and 1911/2011 single shot upper is easier to find.

[Quiet]

No on the first part, but yes it's too late to build a polymer80 due to the embedded metal requirement.

Metal frames pistols are still legal to build yourself.

Yes, on the first part.

Metal receiver/frame can still be used to self-make CA legal firearms.

If the firearm is a handgun; then it must comply with CA unsafe handgun laws [PC 29182(e)(2)], CA assault weapons laws [PC 29182(e)(1)], and CA generally prohibited weapons laws [PC 29182(e)(1)].

Which means...

If you want to legally build it as a semi-auto pistol; it needs to have all CA mandated safety features (Chamber Load Indicator, Magazine Disconnect Mechanism, Microstamping Array) and pass CA DOJ safety testing.

In order to avoid those requirements, you can build it as a dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol or a dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistol and, while in CA, keep them configured as such to remain CA legal.