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  • Wordupmybrotha
    From anotha motha
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2013
    • 6965

    Point and shoot Glock malfunctions

    Yep, I never thought I'd mention Glock and malfunction in the same breath, but I experienced a few just now.

    Scenario: G34. Loaded 3 rounds into a 10 rd mag. Picked up the gun from the table, pointed at the target one-handed without using sights and pulled the trigger in one fluid motion. The second round indubitably fails to chamber; it gets stuck at an angle.

    However, if I load 5 rounds or more, no malfunction. If I load 3 but hold the gun parallel to the ground (one handed or two), no malfunction.

    Hypothesis: Probably not enough magazine spring tension to load the round evenly. Or not enough power from a factory 115gr load to move the slide back and forth to overcome the low spring tension or the inertia of the upward movement of the gun. I was using Blazers. Swinging the pistol upward has a limp wristing effect?

    Bonus thought: I was pleasantly surprised by the accuracy of point and shoot. I managed a fist-sized group from 5 yds. In an emergency situation I intend to get my shots first with the point and shoot method and then use sights if situation allows.
    Last edited by Wordupmybrotha; 07-07-2019, 6:52 AM.
  • #2
    shafferds
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1970

    Hold the gun tighter.

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    • #3
      BigBamBoo
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2008
      • 5210

      Originally posted by shafferds
      Hold the gun tighter.
      This ^^^ You are limp wristing the pistol.

      A lighter recoil spring will help, but proper grip is the real answer.


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      • #4
        Wordupmybrotha
        From anotha motha
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2013
        • 6965

        How do you explain no malfunction when 5 rounds are loaded in the mag? Same wrist same grip.

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        • #5
          Notpc
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 3498

          Originally posted by Wordupmybrotha
          How do you explain no malfunction when 5 rounds are loaded in the mag? Same wrist same grip.
          Weight and as you surmised, spring tension is my guess. Try holding gun with two handed grip when you pick the gun off the table with the 3 round load, and I bet you will not have a feeding problem.
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          • #6
            harleygsb
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 150

            If grip is the issue, it seems weird to me to own a self-defense gun that has to be held a certain way to work properly. In a critical situation, a "proper grip" might be hard to achieve??

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            • #7
              Garv
              RSG Minion, Senior
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2014
              • 9028

              Try using a new freedom mag with new springs.

              How many mags. does this happen with or did you just bring one?

              Clean the mag up a bit just in case.
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              • #8
                plumbum
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2010
                • 5394

                Weak ammo, limp grip and weak springs - that’ll do it!
                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                • #9
                  vintagearms
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6841

                  Try it with a standard mag, not a 10rd one.

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                  • #10
                    baranski
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 3852

                    Replace the 2138 follower with a 9MM3 follower.
                    Originally posted by ACfixer
                    there's plenty of sissies and snitches roaming the hallways here.

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                    • #11
                      ZX9ALLDAY
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 597

                      Your doing it wrong... if you are going to shoot one handed, you have to shoot it sideways.

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                      • #12
                        SkyHawk
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 23518

                        What follower is in the mag? How long has the mag been stored loaded?
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                        • #13
                          71MUSTY
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 7029

                          Originally posted by harleygsb
                          If grip is the issue, it seems weird to me to own a self-defense gun that has to be held a certain way to work properly. In a critical situation, a "proper grip" might be hard to achieve??
                          Small handguns are always a compromise.

                          When shooting smaller (compact and sub compact) handguns grip is the issue about 90% of the time.

                          When I first started shooting small guns I thought they were all junk. Turned out the sloppy grip I used on my full size guns did not transfer well to a small gun.

                          Sufficient training will overcome the issue.
                          Last edited by 71MUSTY; 07-07-2019, 9:46 AM.
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                          • #14
                            jkonquer
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 623

                            Originally posted by harleygsb
                            If grip is the issue, it seems weird to me to own a self-defense gun that has to be held a certain way to work properly. In a critical situation, a "proper grip" might be hard to achieve??
                            I have limp wrist problem only on my glocks.

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                            • #15
                              k1dude
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2009
                              • 14822

                              Originally posted by ZX9ALLDAY
                              Your doing it wrong... if you are going to shoot one handed, you have to shoot it sideways.
                              Only if your support hand is holding your pants up by the crotch.
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