Threadless Compensator

[Quiet]

It could be anything simple that's not a thread, as in, it doesn't have inclined surfaces. So it could be like a 3 lug except with 2 lugs like a Gemtech bi-lock. Similar to a bolt action rifle's lugs.

Reminder that, under CA regulations as of 07-31-2017, "barrel lugs" are also considered a "threaded barrel". [11 CCR 5471(rr)]

[Connor Wilson]

Actually I am the owner of THIS site, he is the owner of THAT site.

I am aware that he is discussing his product under development and is not a Vendor.
At this point there is no product to sell so it's not a problem, I'm sure once this becomes available for retail sale he'll contact Dave and become a Vendor.

Hi Kestryll sorry if I wasn't supposed to post something like this! I just saw this thread and wanted to let people know what I am trying to do. I will definitely go through the process and become a vendor once we are up and running.

[Connor Wilson]

Reminder that, under CA regulations as of 07-31-2017, "barrel lugs" are also considered a "threaded barrel". [11 CCR 5471(rr)]

Yes, our barrel design does not have lugs nor is it capable of accepting other attachments like suppressors etc.

[DNA]

https://www.strikeindustries.com/shop/si-g3-mdcomp-1461.html

Looks like Strike Industries finally has released the gen3 version of the threadless comp.

Dan

[fmunk]

Are you on RTI's payroll or something?

No I'm just a guy in California who wants a compensator haha...

o_O

I knew something smelled fishy.

[Connor Wilson]

Oh dang they finally released it! I gave up after we never heard anything on their first g3 comp post years back.

[Connor Wilson]

o_O

I knew something smelled fishy.

I still don't know what this is referring to though haha. What do you mean?

[Snoopy47]

For Glocks:

Why not just cut the magazine catch in half so the button side can't be pressed without a tool of some sort.

Also, only use 10 round magazines.

[Quiet]

For Glocks:

Why not just cut the magazine catch in half so the button side can't be pressed without a tool of some sort.

Also, only use 10 round magazines.

Because that no longer meets the definition of a "fixed magazine".
~It was acceptable method from 2000-2016.

Starting 01-01-2017, a "fixed magazine" is an ammunition feeding device that is contained in the firearm and that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or that is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

So, for a Glock pistol to have a "fixed magazine":
Option 1.
The magazine needs to be locked into the grip in a manner that prevents it's removal until after the slide is removed from the frame.
Option 2.
The magazine is permanently attached (epoxy/riveted) into the grip.

[Snoopy47]

Because that no longer meets the definition of a "fixed magazine".

F this state

[thegamettt]

https://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...comp-1461.html

Looks like Strike Industries finally has released the gen3 version of the threadless comp.

Dan

I want to buy this to try out but they sold out pretty quickly

[ar15barrels]

Wouldn't a comp attached with set screws to a dimpled barrel work? It might even be better since it wouldn't have to be indexed.

This doesn't exist as far as I know.

It would be better to have the comp slip on and then be cross pinned.
The barrel and comp could be sold as a mated pair that anyone could install into their slide and then slip the comp on the barrel and drive the pin into place.
This would be much more dependable than trying to hold a comp in place with set screws.

[sigstroker]

A comp that's attached to the barrel is going to be more effective than one that's attached to the guide rod like this one is. The exit diameters can be tighter to the bore and more concentric.

[Snoopy47]

What about an industrial strength metal to metal bonding compound?

If those do the job, then it doesn't have to be sent out and "pinned" or welded.

What about solder?

What about something that could be removed with extreme heat? Is that OK?

I guess it all depends on the investigating officer and prosecuting attorney. However, ruining the barrel after removal is the safest piece of evidence in court.

[ar15barrels]

What about an industrial strength metal to metal bonding compound?

If those do the job, then it doesn't have to be sent out and "pinned" or welded.

What about solder?

What about something that could be removed with extreme heat? Is that OK?

I guess it all depends on the investigating officer and prosecuting attorney. However, ruining the barrel after removal is the safest piece of evidence in court.

There are federal guidelines issued by the ATF for what "permanent" is.

Solder with a melting point over 1100 degrees qualifies.
The solder that melts over 1100 is actually 1200 degree solder.
1200 degrees is the annealing point of most steel alloys.
Taking a barrel to 1200 (or higher when you don't have a proper control of temperature) anneals the barrel and creates scale in the bore as the carbon burns out of the steel.

No glues or epoxy of any sort qualify as permanent under the ATF guidelines.

The acceptable methods are as follows in order from least damaging to most damaging:
1. Blind pin with weld over the accessible end of the pin.
2. Silver solder with a melting temperature over 1100 degrees F between barrel and muzzle device.
3. 4 full fusion welds between muzzle device and barrel equidistant spaced around the perimeter of the junction.
4. 1 full fusion weld between muzzle device and barrel that covers more than 50% of the perimeter of the junction.