Cajunized Question?

[ducatiti]

[redhemi]

Not normal. I left mine double action but put the Pro package in it and it doesn't do that. Sounds like something was installed wrong.

[1911Luvr]

This is very common and many firearms do this.


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[ducatiti]

This is very common and many firearms do this.


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Common but not as designed? A flaw then?

Also, is this something one should worry about, or something that can be easily remedied at home?

[bruss01]

It is not supposed to work that way.

Some people have guns that do this and "like it" because it saves them having to rack the slide after inserting a magazine.

To me, that's like a car that jumps into gear when you start the engine. Yes it's a step saver (sometimes) but no it's not supposed to work like that.

I've had a gun in the past that did this (one of my several CZ's) and I had it corrected at the gunsmith.

In most instances, this is something that happens "most of the time" or "sometime" when a mag is inserted. If you have one handgun and it does this with 100% reliability then I suppose there's no harm, you just get used to it that way. However, handguns as a rule don't do this when they are working as designed. You'll have to handle each firearm differently if you have several... or, if it happens 50% of the time, you always have to seat a magazine then adjust what you do next based on whether the slide closes or not. Again, not a big deal at the range where you are just putting holes in paper... but in training, competition or a qualification of some kind, it will cost you time. More time than just racking the slide every time you seat a new mag.

[1911Luvr]

Common but not as designed? A flaw then?

Also, is this something one should worry about, or something that can be easily remedied at home?

[mjmagee67]

There is nothing wrong with it. It normally takes a pretty firm seating of the mag....The more you use a gun the more likely it will do it...My guns that do it...Glock, S&W M&P, CZ, Walther, Tanfo, a few 1911, and Sigs..


It nothing like a car "jumping" into gear..not even close.

[eaglemike]

There is nothing wrong with it. It normally takes a pretty firm seating of the mag....The more you use a gun the more likely it will do it...My guns that do it...Glock, S&W M&P, CZ, Walther, Tanfo, a few 1911, and Sigs..


It nothing like a car "jumping" into gear..not even close.

This ^^^

If it bothers you/me/the owner, figure out what is making it happen. To start, obviously the slide release is moving, right? Okay, what is making it/allowing it to move? Is there something worn on the release so it doesn't stay engaged? Is the magazine bumping, ammunition hitting something causing the slide to move a bit - releasing pressure on the release, so it moves or disengages? (on some pistols, the bullet or magazine can actually hit the release, causing it to disengage) Figuring stuff out and problem solving is rewarding....

[Colt]

Well sure, you may want to live with it. But what if one time the hammer drops after slide slams shut?

Had the issue w/a 1911 after having some work done. The problem was the slide stop, and a new slide stop fixed the issue.

Good luck.

[DNA]

It's not a problem per se... Even kind of desirable in some circles.

Just replace the slide stop pin and that'll fix it.

There are tutorials on how to shave off material on your slide stop to get that effect where a stout mag insertion cause the slide to move forward.

Dan

[ducatiti]

This ^^^

If it bothers you/me/the owner, figure out what is making it happen. To start, obviously the slide release is moving, right? Okay, what is making it/allowing it to move? Is there something worn on the release so it doesn't stay engaged? Is the magazine bumping, ammunition hitting something causing the slide to move a bit - releasing pressure on the release, so it moves or disengages? (on some pistols, the bullet or magazine can actually hit the release, causing it to disengage) Figuring stuff out and problem solving is rewarding....

Good point. I remember watching a video of someone modifying the slide stop in order to do this. My gun had 100 rounds thru it prior to sending it to Cajun with another 50 or so rounds today. I don’t think anything is worn.

[eaglemike]

Well sure, you may want to live with it. But what if one time the hammer drops after slide slams shut?

Had the issue w/a 1911 after having some work done. The problem was the slide stop, and a new slide stop fixed the issue.

Good luck.

Hammer following on slide drop is the issue with what you describe- that's entirely different. I would never blame the hammer following on the slide stop. It's a bad trigger job, or worn parts
ETA: Also, you said after you had some work done - was it a trigger job?

[mjmagee67]

Well sure, you may want to live with it. But what if one time the hammer drops after slide slams shut?

Had the issue w/a 1911 after having some work done. The problem was the slide stop, and a new slide stop fixed the issue.

Good luck.

That's a completely different thing. If you are getting hammer follow on a 1911 it's a worn or improperly adjusted sear spring. No matter how hard you drop the slide on a 1911 you should never get hammer follow.......

[ducatiti]

Not at home right now and don’t have my snap caps. I tested it with an empty magazine, and it didn’t engage as mentioned above. Does this isolate the slide stop as the culprit. CZ sent me a new slide stop due to minimal rust when purchased. I can try to troubleshoot with that.

[eaglemike]

Not at home right now and don’t have my snap caps. I tested it with an empty magazine, and it didn’t engage as mentioned above. Does this isolate the slide stop as the culprit. CZ sent me a new slide stop due to minimal rust when purchased. I can try to troubleshoot with that.

That's a good and very easy first step.
After that, I'd suggest slowly inserting a loaded magazine slowly, and looking for where things touch/hit. Loaded ammunition might be different than your snap caps - snap caps vary widely in shape, size, and weight, which can also affect how they sit in the magazine. As always, safety first!
Good luck!