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  • #16
    IVC
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    • Jul 2010
    • 17594

    Originally posted by Cokebottle
    Good idea once the basics are solid.
    The problem is, self-teaching also reinforces bad habits.
    I'd be a much better guitarist and shooter had I started and stuck with regular lessons instead of taking one here and there when I felt I needed help. Half of the time with the instructor was spent un-learning bad habits.
    ^^^ This.

    Also, dry fire *must* be confirmed in live fire. It's a great tool *if* you know how to use it. Otherwise, you can easily get sloppy with the grip and sights in order to beat the par times, only to learn that you aren't even close in live fire. Dry fire is a way to reinforce what you're doing, good or bad. It's the "bad reinforcement" that is a serious problem.
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    • #17
      dave85620
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 690

      Thanks everyone! I've had a few people pm me offering to help me out which is awesome. I'll also check out some of the places mentioned in this thread.

      Btw I do alot of dry firing already but am not sure if I'm doing it correctly. I do the dime on the front site trick and practice while sitting down.

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      • #18
        trigger945
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        • Sep 2012
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        • #19
          Dvrjon
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          • Nov 2012
          • 11250

          Originally posted by dave85620
          I've been shooting since I was about 10 (33 now) but consider myself a casual shooter. My goal is to shoot a handgun better, especially the Glock (I have a gen 3 g26). I'm not looking to take a class and am more interested in a 1/2-1 hour private session at an indoor range. I frequent Insight in Artesia often. I will provide my own handgun and ammo. Any suggestions?
          Have you asked the folks at Insight?

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          • #20
            Imperius
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            • Jan 2016
            • 156

            OC indoor or make the drive to lytle creek. Monarch Defense for example teaches classes there
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            • #21
              OCEquestrian
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              • Jun 2017
              • 6789

              I can recommend Direct Action Group / TFTT. They have a tactical pistol level I & II coming up next month May 11/12 up at Burro Canyon.

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              • #22
                tanks
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                • Dec 2014
                • 4038

                Originally posted by Haplo
                Artemis Defense has great classes, great instructors. Highly recommended!
                ^^^ This.

                Not to mention their simulators are awesome and are based on Glocks.
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                • #23
                  tanks
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                  • Dec 2014
                  • 4038

                  Originally posted by himurax13
                  I highly suggest joining a competitive shooting organization such as IDPA or USPSA over private lessons.
                  Competitive shooting by itself does not teach you anything in regards to fundamentals. It puts your current skills to test under time pressure.
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                  • #24
                    himurax13
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                    • Aug 2009
                    • 3895

                    Originally posted by tanks
                    Competitive shooting by itself does not teach you anything in regards to fundamentals. It puts your current skills to test under time pressure.
                    And that's why one joins so that they can learn from others and eventually progress. I have rarely seen anyone who actually learns and retains anything useful from any sort of general structured class.

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                    • #25
                      OCEquestrian
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                      • Jun 2017
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                      Originally posted by himurax13
                      And that's why one joins so that they can learn from others and eventually progress. I have rarely seen anyone who actually learns and retains anything useful from any sort of general structured class.

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                      Until you are taught how to safely and CORRECTLY draw from a holster and manipulate your weapon to the point that they are muscle memory, you should not be in a competition combining dynamic movement and stress.
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                      • #26
                        RoundEye
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                        • Mar 2010
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                        I have family in Cerritos, and could probably meet you out that way at some point schedules permitting.
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                        • #27
                          Oc plumber
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                          • Jun 2016
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                          How about classes or instruction in south Orange County ?

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                          • #28
                            tanks
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                            • Dec 2014
                            • 4038

                            Originally posted by himurax13
                            And that's why one joins so that they can learn from others and eventually progress. I have rarely seen anyone who actually learns and retains anything useful from any sort of general structured class.
                            ...
                            So, in your view a person can't learn and retain from a general structured class where one gets personal attention but one will learn and retain just by watching people shoot in competition.

                            Seems contradictory to me. Not to mention no one really is going to analyze his shooting at a competition as people are there to compete and focus on their own stuff, not teach.
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                            • #29
                              Cokebottle
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Originally posted by Oc plumber
                              How about classes or instruction in south Orange County ?
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