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  • dodgerfan175
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 383

    Law Enforcement Only Question

    I went to a local gun shop today they had a Colt .38 super on display. I already knew this gun was not on the approved list, I asked to see it anyway. Before he even took it out he told me that gun was for law enforcement only. I was going to pepper him with questions but there were to many people and I just got out of the way. Is there a law enforcement only list? I spent about an hour looking through the DOJ website and couldn't find anything.
    "I Always Tell The Truth Even When I Lie"

    "Most people respect the badge, everybody respects the gun."
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    FFL dealer is saying "law enforcement only" because he/she is selling it out of their inventory and because the handgun is not on the approved list.

    Law enforcement is exempt from the approved list and can get any (non-assault weapon) handgun they want.
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      Warhawk014
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1498

      Originally posted by Quiet
      FFL dealer is saying "law enforcement only" because he/she is selling it out of their inventory and because the handgun is not on the approved list.

      Law enforcement is exempt from the approved list and can get any (non-assault weapon) handgun they want.
      yeah what ^ said
      http://www.shop42a.com/

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      • #4
        will227457
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 488

        exactly.....they are exempt from the list most dealers won't even bother pulling the gun out to show you unless you are LE...
        Saving you from yourself one post at a time

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        • #5
          HappyG
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 942

          Minor thread jack, but goes with the subject...

          When an LEO pulls up your driver's license, does info about your legally owned toys come up? Let's say during a traffic stop or ID check for whatever reason? I've always been curious.

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          • #6
            dodgerfan175
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 383

            So LEOs can pretty much get any hand gun they want, must be nice. Thanks for the feedback guys.
            "I Always Tell The Truth Even When I Lie"

            "Most people respect the badge, everybody respects the gun."

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            • #7
              Greg-Dawg
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              Originally posted by dodgerfan175
              Is there a law enforcement only list?
              EVERYTHING else plus the list for civilians.

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              • #8
                Amacias805
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 460

                do Federal correctional officers count as LEO's? or just police officers?
                ban death cars! they are designed to cause accidents that kill as many people as possible.

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                • #9
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  Originally posted by dodgerfan175
                  So LEOs can pretty much get any hand gun they want, must be nice. Thanks for the feedback guys.
                  Because LEOs are more proficient with guns that they can use unsafe handguns.
                  The wise man said just find your place
                  In the eye of the storm
                  Seek the roses along the way
                  Just beware of the thorns...
                  K. Meine

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                  • #10
                    CSDGuy
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 3763

                    Originally posted by HappyG
                    Minor thread jack, but goes with the subject...

                    When an LEO pulls up your driver's license, does info about your legally owned toys come up? Let's say during a traffic stop or ID check for whatever reason? I've always been curious.
                    A LEO would normally have to ask for that info. It's in a database that's separate from the DMV database and, IIRC, separate from the normal CLETS query databases. The Firearms database is called the AFS... and that database can be queried from CLETS, if I'm not mistaken. I've heard that some agencies allow the officers to have the ability to directly search the AFS (if they have MDT/MDC in the car), some require that the AFS searches be done by dispatch or records.
                    Last edited by CSDGuy; 04-09-2009, 9:30 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Amacias805
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 460

                      Originally posted by JTROKS
                      Because LEOs are more proficient with guns that they can use unsafe handguns.
                      thats funny! you should be a stand up!
                      ban death cars! they are designed to cause accidents that kill as many people as possible.

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                      • #12
                        El Gato
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1613

                        Originally posted by dodgerfan175
                        I went to a local gun shop today they had a Colt .38 super on display. I already knew this gun was not on the approved list, I asked to see it anyway. Before he even took it out he told me that gun was for law enforcement only. I was going to pepper him with questions but there were to many people and I just got out of the way. Is there a law enforcement only list? I spent about an hour looking through the DOJ website and couldn't find anything.
                        OK... who has the super... and what is it... I am a LEO and adore buying guns that aren't on the list... why.. cause the law is stupid and it is just my way of stikin' it to the man... and then I can... if I want to... later sell it to you or anyone else as a ppt...did I just suggest I might sell a gun....... sorry... brain fade...... but I suppose it is possible.. if not tolerable...
                        Greebo, as a matter of feline pride, would attempt to fight or rape absolutely anything, up to and including a four-horse logging wagon. Ferocious dogs would whine and hide under the stairs when Greebo sauntered down the street. Foxes Kept away from the village. Wolves made a detour. Terry Pratchett

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                        • #13
                          huna koa
                          Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 259

                          you are not mistaken...

                          Originally posted by CSDGuy
                          A LEO would normally have to ask for that info. It's in a database that's separate from the DMV database and, IIRC, separate from the normal CLETS query databases. The Firearms database is called the AFS... and that database can be queried from CLETS, if I'm not mistaken. I've heard that some agencies allow the officers to have the ability to directly search the AFS (if they have MDT/MDC in the car), some require that the AFS searches be done by dispatch or records.
                          ...you have heard clearly...they can do that

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                          • #14
                            gunslinger387
                            Member
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 212

                            A Related Topic

                            Are LEO's able to buy AR's and the like with out a bullet button, or do rifle rules apply the same to everyone?

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                            • #15
                              BigDogatPlay
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 7362

                              The entire issue of LEOs being able to buy off roster really, really, really ticks me off. And I was a LEO for many years and left the field on my own. It is, in a nutshell, a doctrine of seperate AND unequal. I am waiting for the first attorney to be able to make a credible case in a civil proceeding that the officer involved in a shooting who purchased his weapon off roster was using an "unsafe handgun" and that was a proximate cause. If a jury buys that, the sushi might really hit the fan.

                              Imagine all the LEA managers around the state rushing to their computers to dash off memos banning their officers from using personaly owned firearms that aren't rostered. It would be like the mass flush at the halftime commercial break of the Super Bowl.

                              AFS is a seperate inquiry. Some agencies are proactively checking AFS for registrations when officers are sent to things like domestic disturbance calls.
                              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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