I went to a local gun shop today they had a Colt .38 super on display. I already knew this gun was not on the approved list, I asked to see it anyway. Before he even took it out he told me that gun was for law enforcement only. I was going to pepper him with questions but there were to many people and I just got out of the way. Is there a law enforcement only list? I spent about an hour looking through the DOJ website and couldn't find anything.
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"Most people respect the badge, everybody respects the gun."Tags: None -
FFL dealer is saying "law enforcement only" because he/she is selling it out of their inventory and because the handgun is not on the approved list.
Law enforcement is exempt from the approved list and can get any (non-assault weapon) handgun they want.sigpic
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exactly.....they are exempt from the list most dealers won't even bother pulling the gun out to show you unless you are LE...Saving you from yourself one post at a timeComment
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So LEOs can pretty much get any hand gun they want, must be nice. Thanks for the feedback guys."I Always Tell The Truth Even When I Lie"
"Most people respect the badge, everybody respects the gun."Comment
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do Federal correctional officers count as LEO's? or just police officers?
ban death cars! they are designed to cause accidents that kill as many people as possible.
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In the eye of the storm
Seek the roses along the way
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A LEO would normally have to ask for that info. It's in a database that's separate from the DMV database and, IIRC, separate from the normal CLETS query databases. The Firearms database is called the AFS... and that database can be queried from CLETS, if I'm not mistaken. I've heard that some agencies allow the officers to have the ability to directly search the AFS (if they have MDT/MDC in the car), some require that the AFS searches be done by dispatch or records.Last edited by CSDGuy; 04-09-2009, 9:30 PM.Comment
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OK... who has the super... and what is it... I am a LEO and adore buying guns that aren't on the list... why.. cause the law is stupid and it is just my way of stikin' it to the man... and then I can... if I want to... later sell it to you or anyone else as a ppt...did I just suggest I might sell a gun...I went to a local gun shop today they had a Colt .38 super on display. I already knew this gun was not on the approved list, I asked to see it anyway. Before he even took it out he told me that gun was for law enforcement only. I was going to pepper him with questions but there were to many people and I just got out of the way. Is there a law enforcement only list? I spent about an hour looking through the DOJ website and couldn't find anything.
.... sorry... brain fade...
... but I suppose it is possible.. if not tolerable...
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you are not mistaken...
...you have heard clearly...they can do thatA LEO would normally have to ask for that info. It's in a database that's separate from the DMV database and, IIRC, separate from the normal CLETS query databases. The Firearms database is called the AFS... and that database can be queried from CLETS, if I'm not mistaken. I've heard that some agencies allow the officers to have the ability to directly search the AFS (if they have MDT/MDC in the car), some require that the AFS searches be done by dispatch or records.Comment
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Are LEO's able to buy AR's and the like with out a bullet button, or do rifle rules apply the same to everyone?Comment
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The entire issue of LEOs being able to buy off roster really, really, really ticks me off. And I was a LEO for many years and left the field on my own. It is, in a nutshell, a doctrine of seperate AND unequal. I am waiting for the first attorney to be able to make a credible case in a civil proceeding that the officer involved in a shooting who purchased his weapon off roster was using an "unsafe handgun" and that was a proximate cause. If a jury buys that, the sushi might really hit the fan.
Imagine all the LEA managers around the state rushing to their computers to dash off memos banning their officers from using personaly owned firearms that aren't rostered. It would be like the mass flush at the halftime commercial break of the Super Bowl.
AFS is a seperate inquiry. Some agencies are proactively checking AFS for registrations when officers are sent to things like domestic disturbance calls.
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