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  • Imperius
    Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 156

    Help me pick

    With our pitiful roster dwindling by the day, I've more or less come down to 2 guns I feel I'd be comfortable replacing my Glock 19 with while working as private security. The CZ P-01, and the West German Sig Sauer P6. Basically I want to know if I'm a fool for seeking out a P6 to carry. I'm not sure how hard parts and magazines are to find, but the lack of garbage California safeties and the nice ergonomics on both guns appeal to me. Should I just get the P-01 and maybe later find a P6 as more of a historical piece? I guess I could always just buy a 225 A1 when I move...
    Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."
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    DNA
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1517

    For security work, why not stick with the G19? It's relatively light, reliable and has no soul, do you won't have to work about mucking it up or abusing it...

    But been there CZ and the Sig? I'd prefer the CZ... With the Surplus P6s you may encounter issues with the feeding of hollow points, though it would be kind of cool to know it was a police officer's side arm and one point, in a far away land. The CZ, will function and take whatever abuse you throw at it, parts are plentiful and well in case you do break something.

    Dan
    Originally posted by bigmike82
    That doesn't matter.

    If you believe in Liberty, you should believe it for everyone, not simply those whom you agree with.

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    • #3
      L84CABO
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2009
      • 8747

      Originally posted by DNA
      For security work, why not stick with the G19?

      Dan
      I'm betting he doesn't have a choice. The company probably has a hammer fired, SA/DA gun.

      Just a guess though.
      "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

      Fighter Pilot

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      • #4
        phdo
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2010
        • 3870

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        • #5
          Imperius
          Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 156

          Originally posted by L84CABO
          I'm betting he doesn't have a choice. The company probably has a hammer fired, SA/DA gun.

          Just a guess though.
          Bingo. The company i work weekends for doesn't mind, but I do random contracts for another company (private events etc) and they have a sa/da policy and I don't want to carry a wheel gun lol
          Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."

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          • #6
            Bug Catcher
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 21

            So that’s why I always see young security with revolvers, I didn’t think that was part of their job to require a hammer fired gun, just thought they were trying to buck the trend, like hipsters.
            Be kind. Be honest. Be consistent.

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            • #7
              Califpatriot
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 2438

              Originally posted by L84CABO
              he company probably has a hammer fired, SA/DA gun.
              Out of curiosity, what the hell is the logic for that?
              In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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              • #8
                Imperius
                Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 156

                Originally posted by Bug Catcher
                So that’s why I always see young security with revolvers, I didn’t think that was part of their job to require a hammer fired gun, just thought they were trying to buck the trend, like hipsters.
                Originally posted by Califpatriot
                Out of curiosity, what the hell is the logic for that?
                insurance purposes i think. i've never really asked tbh. but i'm guessing the insurance policy is different when your guards are carrying 6 rounds of .38 rather than 11 rounds of 9mm. just a thought. also revolvers are less scary i think? the gun control loving public of california seems to quite enjoy my presence at jewelry stores, malls, concerts, and all manner of highly populated soft target areas though. ironic
                Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."

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                • #9
                  Rather Civilianized
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 51

                  Just curious, but what made you rule out a on roster P229?

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                  • #10
                    Imperius
                    Member
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 156

                    Originally posted by Rather Civilianized
                    Just curious, but what made you rule out a on roster P229?
                    i will not carry or own anything with an added loaded chamber indicator and magazine disconnect safety
                    Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."

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                    • #11
                      nitroxdiver
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6979

                      Last edited by nitroxdiver; 12-11-2018, 10:27 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Imperius
                        Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 156

                        Yeah I think that's what I'll do. Where can I get 10 round mags for the P-01?
                        Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."

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                        • #13
                          BarrettM99
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 2199

                          Originally posted by Califpatriot
                          Out of curiosity, what the hell is the logic for that?
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                          • #14
                            nitroxdiver
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6979

                            Originally posted by Imperius
                            Yeah I think that's what I'll do. Where can I get 10 round mags for the P-01?
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                            • #15
                              Imperius
                              Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 156

                              Originally posted by BarrettM99
                              If you’ve seen many security guards, the logic is obvious. The company wants to limit its liability.

                              Although OP may be one of the few that knows how to use his pistol, many guards are clueless and a borderline danger to themselves.
                              Agreed 100%. The FTO who "trained" me at my post told me he was carrying a Glock when I asked him, only for me to look down and see that it was some sort of FN semi auto in a nylon holster. The jewelry shop workers at my post have told me anecdotes about previous guards leaving their guns in the bathroom, falling asleep on the job, and being on their phones for hours at a time while on the job. 95% of armed guards in this state are idiots and have no business carrying a loaded handgun.
                              Then out spake brave Horatius; The captain of the gate "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late, And how can man die better, Than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, And the temples of his gods."

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