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  • adamkdoiron
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 233

    Polymer Differences in glock generations?

    Hey everyone, quick question, does anyone know if the way the roster works affects the materials in the frames used by glock, and or other companies, for instance if glock switches the polymer frame components, or introduces a new type, in the g4 or g5, then would they be unable to do that for the current gen 3 approved models?

    Thanks,
    Adam
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    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Originally posted by adamkdoiron
    Hey everyone, quick question, does anyone know if the way the roster works affects the materials in the frames used by glock, and or other companies, for instance if glock switches the polymer frame components, or introduces a new type, in the g4 or g5, then would they be unable to do that for the current gen 3 approved models?
    It does.

    If the material of the frames changes in anyway (new formula, new material, etc), then it will cause the handgun to be considered a "new" type of handgun. Which will need to meet the current CA safety requirements and testing to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

    So, if Glock developed a new type of polymer to use in making Gen 3 Glocks, then those Glocks will be considered off-Roster.
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      M1NM
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2011
      • 7966

      I doubt Glock would ever say "New Plastic" developed for gun. They wouldn't want to share the trade secret make up of the stuff nor would they want it to be seen as there being a problem with their earlier formula. So it may change but CA wouldn't know about it.
      I still haven't figured out why US built aren't CA approved but the exact same gun made in Austria is.

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      • #4
        plumbum
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 5394

        But, how could perfection change???
        Originally posted by ysr_racer
        Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by M1NM
          I still haven't figured out why US built aren't CA approved but the exact same gun made in Austria is.
          CA DOJ told Glock they view it as two different manfuacturers.

          Glock Ges.m.b.H is a different company than Glock USA Inc. and they do not share the same manufacturing equipment.
          Therefore, they are two different manufacturers.

          Which means in order for Glock pistols made by Glock USA to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale; those pistols will need to have chamber load indicator, magazine disconnect mechanism, and microstamping array.
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          • #6
            17+1
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 2847

            Originally posted by Quiet
            CA DOJ told Glock they view it as two different manfuacturers.

            Glock Ges.m.b.H is a different company than Glock USA Inc. and they do not share the same manufacturing equipment.
            Therefore, they are two different manufacturers.

            Which means in order for Glock pistols made by Glock USA to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale; those pistols will need to have chamber load indicator, magazine disconnect mechanism, and microstamping array.
            In 2006 Glock Smyrna began manufacturing 3rd generation 9/40/357/GAP frames. These frames are simply marked "Glock, Inc. Smyrna, GA" on the upper right side of the grip. It should be noted that Gen1 and early Gen2 frames were marked in a similar way, but these frames were made in Austria. In...


            I bought it in 2008 so timeframe is correct for when these were being built...

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            • #7
              adamkdoiron
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 233

              Originally posted by CJ5&G23
              Polymer differences in Glocks?

              1) There have been differences in polymer colors with the advent of OD and FDE in Gen3 (and Grey and BFG in Gen4). OD's are on Roster, but FDE isn't.

              2) There have been subtle differences in the moldings of polymer lowers over time. I'd have to check into the dates when CA laws prevented such changes to Rostered pistols to tell if any of those were made "after being Rostered".
              Mostly in regards to the chemicals used in the polymers, how ruger used to use zytel for example, but now dont I believe. I was thinking it would probably not go along with the roster, and due to prop 65 regulations, it would be like a catch-22 for manufacturers.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by 17+1
                Do you think anyone screwed this up before and shipped US made Glocks to CA guns dealers?
                Yes.

                Happened a bunch of times when Glock USA Inc first started making Glock pistols and before CA DOJ noticed it. After CA DOJ noticed it, that's when they declared they were off-Roster.
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