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  • kermit315
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2007
    • 5928

    6 'o clock hold

    Hey guys,

    I had a quick question. When the sights are lined up with the front sight on the center of the target, and the rear sight in alignment with the front sight, you pull the trigger and hit the center of the target (Ideally).

    How does 6 'o clock hold work. If you have the front sight below the center of the target, at the 6 'o clock position, with the sights aligned, how do you achieve hitting the center of the target? Why is this position beneficial?

    Thanks for any info guys.

    Jamie
  • #2
    cassius
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 449

    6 o'clock hold is about killing people, not paper.
    It also helps increase the odds that rapid follow-up shots stay in your human target, as the muzzle rises.
    Training with a 6 o'clock hold on paper conditions you to always hold that way so you reflexively do it when it really counts.

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    • #3
      Fjold
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 22926

      Six o'clock hold was made for paper shooting round bullseye targets. If you picture aligning your sights against a round bullseye it is easier to hold the front post right on the bottom of the round target than trying to bisect a circle cleanly in half.

      Think of it as a "Pumpkin sitting on a post", it's easier to hold the bottom of the round circle accurately. For an 8" round target you adjust the point of impact to be 4 inches higher than the sights. This works well with the round targets of known sizes that target shooters use. A lot of high power rifle competitors in the Service Rifle matches will use a 6 o'clock hold or a "flat tire" hold where they put the front site slightly up into the circle to look like a "flat tire".
      Frank

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      • #4
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        The only problem with Lolly popping the target is that if the distance or size of the bull changes then your point of impact will be off. Its a tough habit to break, I speak from experience.

        Until I started shooting High Power matches, I had all of my sights on all of my guns adjusted for the 6 o'clock hold, mainly because I wanted to actually see what I was shooting at or trying to hit.
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        • #5
          kermit315
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2007
          • 5928

          so, with 6 'o clock, you also adjust your sights to move the POI back to where you would normally have it with standard sighting methods. That makes sense to me, at least more than it did before.

          Thanks for the info guys.

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          • #6
            El Gato
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1613

            Originally posted by Fjold
            Six o'clock hold was made for paper shooting round bullseye targets. If you picture aligning your sights against a round bullseye it is easier to hold the front post right on the bottom of the round target than trying to bisect a circle cleanly in half.

            Think of it as a "Pumpkin sitting on a post", it's easier to hold the bottom of the round circle accurately. For an 8" round target you adjust the point of impact to be 4 inches higher than the sights. This works well with the round targets of known sizes that target shooters use. A lot of high power rifle competitors in the Service Rifle matches will use a 6 o'clock hold or a "flat tire" hold where they put the front site slightly up into the circle to look like a "flat tire".
            +1 - that is where the technique comes from...
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            • #7
              SDJim
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 878

              When shooting HP Rifle, @ 200yds I find it easier to shoot center of bull then move to a 6 O'clock hold for 300 on out.
              Pick a hold, get your dope for the distance and go to town.

              We need to get you up to the Navy Matches for some training & free shooting . . .
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              • #8
                kermit315
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2007
                • 5928

                hell, I am all down for free shooting. I cant get anyone on either of these two bases to let me actually go qualify. Maybe this friday though, Squadron is doing pistol requal for aircrew, I would like to get in on that and at least get pistol qualified.

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