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  • MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    First time revolver owner, trigger hangs up....

    There, I said it. I’m a first time revolver owner.

    I’ve got a problem. My one and only DA wheel gun, an SW 986 hangs up on rapid fire. I feel that I am not releasing the trigger enough after firing. User error? Is that normal? I had upgraded to a lighter hammer leaf spring. Does that have an effect?

    Advise appreciated.
    Last edited by MarikinaMan; 07-25-2018, 10:14 PM.
  • #2
    denpython
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1897

    Yep!
    NRA Life Member, GOA member

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    • #3
      MarikinaMan
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 4864

      ^^^cool. Thanks.

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      • #4
        MASTERLAB
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 969

        Never had that happen with my old S&W but it did happen with a Ruger LCR, sold the Ruger. It's likely just a quirk you'll have to get used to not something wrong with the gun.

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        • #5
          ojisan
          Agent 86
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2008
          • 11780

          Not letting the trigger go all the way forward before the next pull is called short stroking.

          Short stroking is more likely to occur with a reduced power trigger return spring...either the spring does not have enough power to help push your finger all the way forward or the trigger is moving forward too slow to keep up with your rate of fire.

          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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          • #6
            Garv
            RSG Minion, Senior
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2014
            • 9070

            Originally posted by ojisan
            Not letting the trigger go all the way forward before the next pull is called short stroking.
            This has happened to me a couple times (OK, 4 or 5) during rapid fire with my stock S&W 617. Gotta slow down just a hair.
            Originally posted by Kestryll:
            It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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            • #7
              MarikinaMan
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 4864

              Thanks!

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              • #8
                Mystery_Milk
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2017
                • 541

                I think this happens a lot for people who fire a lot of striker-fired semi-autos. Even though the trigger pull for striker-fireds is usually decently long the reset is really short so the muscle memory is to not let it go back all the way.

                I see you replaced a hammer spring. You didn't also replace the trigger return spring did you? It would lighten the trigger pull but increase the time to reset.

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                • #9
                  hambam105
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7083

                  Put the OEM parts back in. Have 2nd shooter test drive it. Any hiccup at all send it back to factory. Once we know the pistol is serviceable then we can concentrate on Nut-Behind-The-Butt situation.

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                  • #10
                    JTROKS
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 13093

                    You have to practice letting your finger go forward enough for the trigger to reset. I had the same problem when I was shooting steel with a revolver. Trying to go faster lead to a disaster. I hated it when I short stroke the trigger and it just rotates the cylinder without any hammer action. It took me while practicing pulling the trigger and letting the trigger go forward, doing it slowly until that muscle memory sets in.
                    The wise man said just find your place
                    In the eye of the storm
                    Seek the roses along the way
                    Just beware of the thorns...
                    K. Meine

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                    • #11
                      eaglemike
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3955

                      Some guy that's really really good with a wheelgun uses the fatory trigger return spring. Some guy named Jerry something......
                      Sometimes it does help to shim the trigger to keep in centered. I think it's Power Custom that makes the shims, IIRC. I've had a few S&W trigerrs bind a little until polished or stoned smooth, and then shimmed. All good after that.
                      There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                      It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                      • #12
                        plumbum
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 5394

                        You aren’t releasing enough on your off-stroke (chuckle), revolvers don’t have any reset notch (or whatever Glockism) so the mechanism has to be fully actuated to complete the cycle.
                        Originally posted by ysr_racer
                        Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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                        • #13
                          jdg30
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1095

                          The lighter hammer spring definitely is affecting your gun. Switch it back to factory spring settings and the gun will be totally reliable. Once you learn more about revolvers, then you can change springs and see what works and what doesn't. With all due respect, you can't just lighten springs and expect the gun to function properly. Lighter springs make things like primer strike and trigger return sluggish, which will cause the revolver to malfunction when trying to rapid fire it.

                          I would research the gun more to learn about it, then try adjusting springs to see what works for you.

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                          • #14
                            Che762x39
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4538

                            Originally posted by ojisan
                            Not letting the trigger go all the way forward before the next pull is called short stroking.

                            Short stroking is more likely to occur with a reduced power trigger return spring...either the spring does not have enough power to help push your finger all the way forward or the trigger is moving forward too slow to keep up with your rate of fire.
                            Very well put sir. Thank you for sharing my friend

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