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  • #16
    M1XdColt
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 806

    Originally posted by gpark09
    Currently, I am using Fiocchi 115gr fmj for practice and plingking. 9mm, of course. Although the ammo very reliable, I am beginning to get irritated by how it's being bit snappy.

    Can some one recommend me a well known and easily found factory ammo that's least to be snappy? I am hearing different stuffs from different guys regarding 124gr and 147gr about being lesser snappy.

    I would really like to change the ammo for next batch of order and I would appreciate it if some one can recommend me a least snappy .
    You forgot the lost 9mm bullet which is the 168gr. Anyhow if you or anyone can't handle a that 9mm rd than Idk what to say. Should be a shame of yourself for shooting 9. I'm guessing you or anyone that cannot handle 9 because of be snappy rd should go with an 25 or 380 or even better switch to an air gun. But put some jokes to the side and go with an heavier spring... You'll able to control the snappy 9. Remember an 380 is like an 40 and a 9 is like an 10mm.

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    • #17
      CinnamonBear723
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 1874

      I like 147gr+p for self defense round and I don't really care what weight for fmj or tmj rounds.

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      • #18
        aspenvalley
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 693

        I find Fiocchi to hot loaded. I have no date other that just shooting different brands. I reload as well and woulld tell you that is where you want to start.

        Be careful changing bullet weight to reduce felt recoil, you point of impact may change as well. I prefer 124 gr for HD so that is what I run in everything.

        The powder is used make a huge difference but with factory ammo you get what they give you. I have found Blazer Brass and Mag Teck to be on the light side.

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        • #19
          creampuff
          • Jan 2006
          • 3730

          Originally posted by aspenvalley
          I find Fiocchi to hot loaded. I have no date other that just shooting different brands. I reload as well and woulld tell you that is where you want to start.

          Be careful changing bullet weight to reduce felt recoil, you point of impact may change as well. I prefer 124 gr for HD so that is what I run in everything.

          The powder is used make a huge difference but with factory ammo you get what they give you. I have found Blazer Brass and Mag Teck to be on the light side.
          Fiocchi always is hot compared to other factory 9mm. As aspen stated, Blazer Brass is much more mild. So are Winchester white box, and Remington UMC. However I find Blazer to be cleaner burning than Winchester and Remington.

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          • #20
            D53
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 2248

            After running numerous brands in different weights, I am a fan of the Aguila 124gr. It is the only round that I have found to be consistent when shooting multigun, USPSA and a local Bullseye league.

            In second place, I like the CCI Blazer Brass 124gr. Another good performer and usually at a killer price.
            "Because 4 inches is big to a midget" - Dave Attell

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            • #21
              Bad Caselaw
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 808

              Originally posted by gpark09
              Currently, I am using Fiocchi 115gr fmj for practice and plingking. 9mm, of course. Although the ammo very reliable, I am beginning to get irritated by how it's being bit snappy.

              Can some one recommend me a well known and easily found factory ammo that's least to be snappy? I am hearing different stuffs from different guys regarding 124gr and 147gr about being lesser snappy.

              I would really like to change the ammo for next batch of order and I would appreciate it if some one can recommend me a least snappy .
              Paul Nowak from Winchester
              Some people seem to think that faster is better no matter what and really don’t think much about terminal ballistics. They only think about foot pounds of energy. The +P+ cartridge is not a SAAMI cartridge and has a substantially higher pressure than regular or +P ammunition. It also has more recoil than the 147 gr. product, 23% more to be exact.
              For Practice: 147 gr. Std. Pressure Federal American Eagle or Speer Lawman.
              For Carry: 147 gr. Std. Pressure Federal HST or Winchester Ranger-T Series.

              This is what I shoot in my micro Sig P938, and it is comfortable to shoot, reasonably priced, accurate, and effective.





              Caselaw
              Last edited by Bad Caselaw; 07-24-2018, 12:29 AM.
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              • #22
                hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                Yep. When the 115 get to be too much I go to AirSoft myself.

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                • #23
                  jyo
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5303

                  9mm too snappy? Really? My wife shoots her compact Kahr CW9 all the time with no complaints---learn how to properly hold/control your pistol better---9mm simply doesn't kick that much...

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                  • #24
                    aklon
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3015

                    I'm not so much concerned with weight as with which bullet is the most accurate out of the gun I'm shooting. Looking for groups less than 3" wide at 10 yards, I'll try different brands (I don't reload 9) until I find one that delivers a good clean pattern.
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                    • #25
                      Robert1234
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3078

                      For when your 9mm ammo is too snappy.

                      Cheaper Than Dirt! is America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, and we live up to that title. Expect bulk ammo deals, discounts, gun care accessories and more

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                      • #26
                        gpark09
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 375

                        Originally posted by rodralig
                        True that! There is NO one size fits all for firearms - guns are different, grip angles are different, the manner the gun manages recoil is different, weight is different, etc. and human beings are different.

                        Good luck in you finding what works for you...!

                        That being said - could it be that the gun you are using is not "meant" for you? *just a thought, something to think about*

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                        I agree... my journey to make this one work will continue, though...
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                        • #27
                          gpark09
                          Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 375

                          Originally posted by Bad Caselaw
                          For Practice: 147 gr. Std. Pressure Federal American Eagle or Speer Lawman.
                          For Carry: 147 gr. Std. Pressure Federal HST or Winchester Ranger-T Series.

                          This is what I shoot in my micro Sig P938, and it is comfortable to shoot, reasonably priced, accurate, and effective.





                          Caselaw
                          Thanks... something I was considering of too...
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                          • #28
                            gpark09
                            Member
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 375

                            Originally posted by oddjob
                            What handgun are you using?
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                            • #29
                              gpark09
                              Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 375

                              Originally posted by D53
                              After running numerous brands in different weights, I am a fan of the Aguila 124gr. It is the only round that I have found to be consistent when shooting multigun, USPSA and a local Bullseye league.

                              In second place, I like the CCI Blazer Brass 124gr. Another good performer and usually at a killer price.
                              Interesting indeed.
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                              • #30
                                rodralig
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4262

                                Okay - although, personally, I’d say that the 9mm is not much in regards to recoil. With good grip fundamentals, etc. - the recoil can be managed.

                                But, then, let me be a Devil’s Advocate for a moment - what is the basis for us saying that the recoil of the 9mm is really nothing to worry about?
                                • Slow fire target/bullseye shooting? Recoil doesn’t really matter in during slow fire.
                                • Splits during pairs? Bill Drill at 7-yards? 10-yards? 15-yards? Now, there is one very objective criteria!
                                • How about some unique drills like from draw, take 4-shots to the A-zone (body), then 2-shots to the A-zone (head)…?
                                • How about pairs at 3-yards within 2-inches and 1.0-sec par?


                                … using 115GR factory loads?


                                How can we confidently say that we can manage the recoil, even for a 9mm?


                                It’s like those YouTube review videos where a guy concludes that a particular firearm is quite accurate... By shooting groups larger than 2-inches at 7-yards doing slow fire???

                                Just my $0.02 worth…



                                Originally posted by aklon
                                I'm not so much concerned with weight as with which bullet is the most accurate out of the gun I'm shooting. Looking for groups less than 3" wide at 10 yards, I'll try different brands (I don't reload 9) until I find one that delivers a good clean pattern.
                                Unless there are really some outliers out there, 3" at 10-yards should be doable for any round, on the assumption that the shooter does his/her part.

                                For accuracy, shouldn't you be looking farther out? Like 25-yards or 50-yards?

                                Am I missing something here?


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