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  • #16
    ducatiti
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 740

    With a more relaxed grip with the stock trigger, I can dry fire without movement after the trigger breaks probably 7 out of 10 times, and not thinking about it too much lol. But with the Fulcrum kit, there is no movement at all no matter what my grip is, even one handed. Oh, when I meant stock, with a minus connector. I installed one from the get go. And for the Fulcrum, I installed the 3lb striker spring in the kit.

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    • #17
      XDJYo
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2012
      • 6157


      It really depends. On a production gun, there will be widely varying qualities of triggers.

      Q: How many rounds downrange with your Loaded?

      Originally posted by ducatiti
      With a more relaxed grip with the stock trigger, I can dry fire without movement after the trigger breaks probably 7 out of 10 times, and not thinking about it too much lol. But with the Fulcrum kit, there is no movement at all no matter what my grip is, even one handed. Oh, when I meant stock, with a minus connector. I installed one from the get go. And for the Fulcrum, I installed the 3lb striker spring in the kit.
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      • #18
        Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2012
        • 11272

        Op, you’re three months into the sport and you wonder why you don’t have 20 years of experience.

        Slow down and take a breath. You’ve been screwing around with adding crap to guns you haven’t learned to shoot. The solution isn’t outside of yourself.

        I would suggest that you set aside three of your four pistols, and take the fourth gun (Take the SA 45) to a qualified trainer, and learn to shoot it, without reservation. More importantly, learn A gun. Put 3,000 quality rounds through it. Not “quality ammunition”; quality rounds. Don’t just pull the trigger; understand what happens when you pull the trigger, and after the trigger is pulled.

        You’re done when you can call the shot placement at 15 yds without looking at the target to figure out where it hit.

        Then try integrating another pistol into the mix. The skills learned on the first gun will follow to the next.

        (Given other’s backgrounds in 1911’s, their desire/need for a trigger job is far different from yours...)
        Last edited by Dvrjon; 06-29-2018, 10:34 PM.

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        • #19
          MosinVirus
          Happily Infected
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2013
          • 5282

          Sorry, I don't see how a 1911 trigger would reset far from the wall, and even more so, farther from the wall than a Glock trigger.

          Can you maybe show a video?
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          • #20
            ducatiti
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2018
            • 740

            Originally posted by Dvrjon
            A gun. Put 3,000 quality
            Very sound advice. I thank you for that! Yes, I will only bring one to the range instead of two.

            Thank you all for your patience with me. I so far, I have only gone through 500 rounds with the 1911.

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            • #21
              ducatiti
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2018
              • 740

              Originally posted by MosinVirus
              Sorry, I don't see how a 1911 trigger would reset far from the wall, and even more so, farther from the wall than a Glock trigger.

              Can you maybe show a video?
              Ok I will post one ending up proving myself wrong lol.

              Coming up shortly.

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              • #22
                colt11
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 697

                You are comparing apples and oranges, their both good for you, but both behave differently. The advantage goes to Glock for getting it done cheaper.... But I gotta have my 1911(s)!!!

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                • #23
                  ducatiti
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 740



                  Versus



                  Edit:

                  Second attempt to Demonstrate 1911 Trigger Pull.

                  Last edited by ducatiti; 06-29-2018, 11:19 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Josh3239
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9189

                    It seems like what you are mostly talking about is the feel of the reset, no? No 1911 trigger should have more take up than a Glock trigger. But the triggers between the two are awfully different in both feel and function. I shot hammered guns initially and it took me a while to get used to Glocks, but now its mostly what I shoot. I am trying to get back into hammers. The CZ's are fantastic and are also quite customizable, perhaps you should consider adding one to the collection. I will say the shortest/best reset I've ever felt was on S&W 5904.

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                    • #25
                      ducatiti
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 740

                      Originally posted by Josh3239
                      It seems like what you are mostly talking about is the feel of the reset, no? No 1911 trigger should have more take up than a Glock trigger. But the triggers between the two are awfully different in both feel and function. I shot hammered guns initially and it took me a while to get used to Glocks, but now its mostly what I shoot. I am trying to get back into hammers. The CZ's are fantastic and are also quite customizable, perhaps you should consider adding one to the collection. I will say the shortest/best reset I've ever felt was on S&W 5904.
                      You may be right. Pardon my terminology. Take up/overall feel feels better for me on a Glock. Oh no, I don’t want to be a Fanboi lol. CZ maybe on my Bday or HK perhaps

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                      • #26
                        MosinVirus
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                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 5282

                        I see what you mean now.

                        Yes, they are different trigger systems, and that Glock one looks really nice. I use only stock ones in mine. I was thinking that maybe you meant creep

                        The Glock trigger resets into an insta-wall. But that is always the case due to what resets the trigger.

                        The 1911 trigger reset should be set to be slightly forward from the wall (to allow the sear to be able to move into half cock notch of the hammer). Yours could be made a little shorter I believe but there has to be slight pre-travel.
                        Last edited by MosinVirus; 06-29-2018, 11:40 PM.
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                        • #27
                          23 Blast
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3754

                          This x1000.

                          I've never been any kind of amateur gunsmith, but every Glock I've owned, even when I swapped out to the 3.5lb connector, has made the trigger just....okay. A stock Glock trigger is very much like a stock DA revolver trigger - long and heavy. But if you can master it, a Glock (similar to many DA revolvers in terms of grip angle) will hold you in good stead when shooting ANY platform.

                          Every 1911 I've owned, by contrast, was extremely easy to shoot, even the crappy Armscor EFS I owned 15 years ago.
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                          • #28
                            ducatiti
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 740

                            Originally posted by MosinVirus
                            I see what you mean now.

                            Yes, they are different trigger systems, and that Glock one looks really nice. I use only stock ones in mine. I was thinking that maybe you meant creep

                            The Glock trigger resets into an insta-wall. But that is always the case due to what resets the trigger.

                            The 1911 trigger reset should be set to be slightly forward from the wall (to allow the sear to be able to move into half cock notch of the hammer). Yours could be made a little shorter I believe but there has to be slight pre-travel.
                            That's the term I totally forgot, creep....Reassuring though that I pro like you understand what I feel Thank you Mosin.

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                            • #29
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21392

                              Glock perfection.....
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                              • #30
                                Hank15
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 995

                                I actually like my Glock trigger more too...don't let my gunsmith see this .

                                1911 triggers are crisp and break like the proverbial glass rod, but there's a solid "wall" before the "clean" break.

                                Glocks have heavy resistance but no "wall", so it's a "softer" break.

                                I like to think of it as snapping chopsticks vs snapping twigs.

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