CCUs (Carbine Conversion Units), share your experience!

[vaccaro]

Greetings folks!


I was wondering if those of you who own / have experience with CCUs (Carbine

Conversion Units) would share your knowledge with us. What do you have?

What is your experience? How is the Hera Arms Triar II? How about the Roni?

How is the MechTech CCU? Are there any legal issues with purchasing these

accessories here in CA? What other info / suggestions can you provide those

of us who are interested in one or more of these accessories?


Many thanks in advance for your shares,


--Vaccaro

[ARDude]

Illegal. You would be creating a SBR.

[vaccaro]

Elaborate please.

Illegal. You would be creating a SBR.

Thank you for your response, but would you care to elaborate please?


Which official webpage did you get your information from, I'd love to see a link.


Also, if the MechTech has a 16" barrel, which I believe is standard-length for

a regular rifle, why would this suddenly become an SBR?


--Vaccaro

[boopiejones]

my understanding is that you cannot take a registered pistol lower and make it into a rifle. so that eliminates the mechtech, which completely replaces the glock slide with a new upper and 16 inch barrel.

as I also understand it, there are issues with barrel shrouds and buttstocks on pistols. so that would eliminate the Hera and Roni.

sorry I am just going off memory and don't have links to the laws.

[SloChicken]

my understanding is that you cannot take a registered pistol lower and make it into a rifle. so that eliminates the mechtech, which completely replaces the glock slide with a new upper and 16 inch barrel.

as I also understand it, there are issues with barrel shrouds and buttstocks on pistols. so that would eliminate the Hera and Roni.

sorry I am just going off memory and don't have links to the laws.

actually, it is the other way around in CA.


Can't make a pistol from a Rifle.

making a rifle for a pistol is okay, but must have 16" barrel, buttstock, and follow myriad CA hoops, chutes, and ladders.

[ARDude]

Thank you for your response, but would you care to elaborate please?


Which official webpage did you get your information from, I'd love to see a link.


Also, if the MechTech has a 16" barrel, which I believe is standard-length for

a regular rifle, why would this suddenly become an SBR?


--Vaccaro

The Roni and Hera, you would be creating a sbr. Because they generally utilize the standard length pistol barrel.

Even if you had a 16 inch barrel, as with the Mech Tech, you would still have some AW problems to overcome. And once a pistol becomes a rifle, it can not revert back to a pistol legally.

[dfletcher]

The Roni and Hera, you would be creating a sbr. Because they generally utilize the standard length pistol barrel.

Even if you had a 16 inch barrel, as with the Mech Tech, you would still have some AW problems to overcome. And once a pistol becomes a rifle, it can not revert back to a pistol legally.

With respect to the MechTech and CA AW laws I agree - the firearm is configured as a centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip which extends below the action. And it may be that in CA "once a rifle" applies to then reassembling as a lawfully configured handgun. However federally that went away about 5 years ago. Per ATF the handgun is not made into a rifle, it's only a handgun temporarily reassembled as a legally configured rifle.

ATF is wonderful with words. They went from "no never" to "OK for some" to "what were we thinking, it's OK" without once having to say they were mistaken.

[BEAU-SOF]

Per ATF the handgun is not made into a rifle, it's only a handgun temporarily reassembled as a legally configured rifle.

So something like Hera Arms is ok to purchase for a glock. I am reading that an ATFE Form-1 would have to be filled out and a tax paid?

[CAL.BAR]

You're missing the point. It is NOT the Feds you should be concerned about, it's CALIFORNIA. Getting an ATFE form what (or whatever) will NOT stop you from bring arrested for possession of an AW if it is not properly configured etc.

[BEAU-SOF]

OK thanks for the information

[mach]

https://caagearup.com/collections/ne...r-advanced-kit

[boopiejones]

See this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1453202

[vaccaro]

To all that have chimed in, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience{s}

w/ me and the community, it's greatly appreciated. As far as CA gun laws are concerned

I can only hope that (miraculously) all the firearms haters are replaced and we go

back to having sensible laws as per our 2A.


--Vaccaro

[dfletcher]

So something like Hera Arms is ok to purchase for a glock. I am reading that an ATFE Form-1 would have to be filled out and a tax paid?

I don't know much about the Hera item. Generally if one has a shoulder stock and a firearm with only a barrel fewer than 16", even unassembled, constructive possession applies and that would be an SBR. If your Glock had a 16" barrel you'd be OK. If you had a Glock pistol, a shoulder stock and a 16" barrel separated, federally you'd be OK. Because you have the parts required to assemble a legally configured (federally) firearm. CA, not so much.