What am I doing wrong with Glocks?

[Mag+1]

I saw you flinch at 03:07.

p.s. I do it a lot, myself.

[MosinVirus]

I saw you flinch at 03:07.

p.s. I do it a lot, myself.

I said I am not a great shot...

In any case, I show a view where you can see the gun and the target starting around 3:30.

[FeuerFrei]

Chicken or the egg?
Get a good solid locked down grip. Then learn to pull the trigger without moving the gun around. Any brand, model or type. Dry fire it until you've achieved a minimal movement.
Sight picture comes last IME and un-learning a bad habit (such as poor trigger control) is hard to do.
OP seems to be doing what all rookie shooters do. Just get the fundamentals programmed in and the rest will sort itself out with practice.

Sent using a long string and 2 Dixie cups

[theLBC]

i thought my trigger control was pretty good.
trying out one of those laserlyte target systems showed me it wasn't always as good as i thought it was.

[FeuerFrei]

Excellent use of a laser to show the shooter is actually bouncing the gun around. I've done it too and immediately went to work on my lazy trigger press. Fantastic no bs self assessment right there.

i thought my trigger control was pretty good.
trying out one of those laserlyte target systems showed me it wasn't always as good as i thought it was.

Sent using a long string and 2 Dixie cups

[Lead Waster]

Entirely possible that the sights were off or the weapon had a larger problem...worn out barrel, etc. Perhaps the different grip angle had some impact. Perhaps the trigger was super heavy compared to the other guns. Etc. You can get all manner of crap with rentals.

Like you suggested, I would definitely go to another range and a different rental gun. If you have the same experience, then it's likely something you're doing. Perhaps you don't shoot Glocks well. Which doesn't mean you can't learn.

Agreed ... I wonder how often the Glocks get rented ... and I'm guessing they get rented a lot more than any other pistols at the range. I can picture some guy showing up with his girlfriend and saying "Yeah, so, we'll rent the Glock" because ... it's the only gun they know from movies, TV and music videos.

[Wordupmybrotha]

However, results were good. Not sure what it was yesterday. I took pictures this time too. With the sight picture I thought I was supposed to have, it was shooting pretty low. I didn't know I was shooting 115 grain bullets either until a couple mags in (why do lighter bullets pattern lower?). I adjusted and got pretty good results (I might've sprayed a bit when I was trying to get the right sight picture, don't judge me!).

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Seasoned ammo testers can correct me, but it's hard to believe that 115gr vs 124gr bullets would have such drastic difference in flight pattern at short distances such as 7-15 yds.

Even if that's true, why would light bullets shoot lower for OP? No offense OP, but sounds like an operator issue, not the bullet.

[Mystery_Milk]

Seasoned ammo testers can correct me, but it's hard to believe that 115gr vs 124gr bullets would have such drastic difference in flight pattern at short distances such as 7-15 yds.

Even if that's true, why would light bullets shoot lower for OP? No offense OP, but sounds like an operator issue, not the bullet.

For sure, it could totally be that I was never lining up the sights quite right. I don't own anything with that bar and dot sight. Either way once I figured it out, it was quite good. I mean, I don't have to like or even know how to use the stock sights - from what I've read it's the most replaced part.

[Rosamond]

For sure, it could totally be that I was never lining up the sights quite right. I don't own anything with that bar and dot sight. Either way once I figured it out, it was quite good. I mean, I don't have to like or even know how to use the stock sights - from what I've read it's the most replaced part.

It is certainly operator error, Slow Down and practice the fundamentals. Some guns point more natural for some people than others. If you are always fighting your natural point of aim it is the wrong gun for you.

[Mystery_Milk]

It is certainly operator error, Slow Down and practice the fundamentals. Some guns point more natural for some people than others. If you are always fighting your natural point of aim it is the wrong gun for you.

Actually after every shot it got back on target really nice and quickly, but I always realign the sights consciously because I've been warned over breaking slow fire rules before.

[timeexposure]

[Preston-CLB]

As a new Glock 17 owner, I really appreciate all of the helpful hints provided in this discussion.

Thanks, all!
-P

[Rosamond]

Actually after every shot it got back on target really nice and quickly, but I always realign the sights consciously because I've been warned over breaking slow fire rules before.

My point exactly if a gun does not naturally point for you, you will have to consciously have to re-align your sights. If you can not adjust your grip to have a natural point of aim you will continue to have problems. That is why Glock and other manufacturers have gone to interchangeable backstraps and grips. Unfortunately in California these models are considered unsafe. A good test for this is to look at the target, look away and point at the target when you look if your sights are aligned you are good to go. Then all you have to concentrate on is pulling through the trigger stroke smoothly. This can be difficult if you are not used to the Glock trigger, only let off the trigger until it resets and squeeze again. Again if you are always trying to re-align the sights you will have to find a gun that fits your grip well.

[mjmagee67]

There is a lot of poop on this thread. Shooting any hand gun is deceptively easy, you line up the sights on the target and then pull the trigger with out disturbing the gun/sight alignment......easy peasy, right. All this grip junk is just mental masturbation if you can pull the trigger with out disturbing the gun you can hit the target. You can hold it loose, you can squeeze the poop out of it, you can use one hand, or you can hold it upside down and pull the trigger with your pinky.

If your gun is not grouping it's either your mechanics or the gun/ammo mechanics. I'd always pick the your mechanics, I always look at myself when the gun doesn't shoot well. On the pictures I saw in the thread it looked like the shooter was anticipating the recoil and breaking their wrists down.

To help I'd dry fire and watch the sights and see how they move when you pull the trigger...

Best of luck.