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I write this to help share my experience with those shopping for a 1911.
My experience with the following
Sig Sauer GSR 1911
Excellent price, accuracy was good, fit and finish is good. Downside-some dont like the external extractor, 80 series, and odd slide shape. Trigger is 5.5lbs. Sig makes great entry 1911 with very good pricing.
NHC GRP RECON
Pricey! Everything is top of the line with this pistol BUT it did take 150rds to break in... the gun was very tight brand new. For some odd reason the felt recoil was more with this gun. I put a WC flat wire recoil spring and it addressed that issue. I had 1 failure to feed and that was becuz of the crappy CMC mags...(I only run Wilson's they have never failed me so far). Did i mention it's so beautiful you can just stare at it for days? Comes with a surefire x300u and they give you a coupon for 5 mags from nhc.
Ed Brown special forces
Very similar to the GRP RECON. The gun doesn't come with a Magwell or surefire... when you start adding all that into cost they are equally priced... the finish on the brown is crap! If you use it alot, expect the coating to start wearing... everything else is good. Trigger might be better then the GRP but that's personal preference the reset is more positive with a bounce. They both break at 3.5lbs. The fitment is smooth like the GRP.
Customer service is subjective to who you ask but most ppl say they are not friendly. I personally have not contacted ed brown for anything.
Dan Wesson specialist
For the money you really can't go wrong. Fitment is tight and smooth like the other two customs EB/NHC. Comes with ambi safety, Magwell, flat top slide with serration, and night sights. The trigger is 3.5lbs. G10 grips. Match barrel. Only downside- no lifetime warranty from factory other then that... it's a semi custom but without all the hand fitment hours like the nhc/eb. I used their customer service once for a sharp bur on the front slide. They paid for shipping and had the gun back within two weeks.
Find a 1911 in your budget and to your liking. Use quality magazines and you most likely will never have a problem.
I wrote this cause I was bored [emoji38] so feel free to ask questions."Civil Defense Thru Civil Disobedience; Never Disarm!"
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I have heard the new CMC RPM are very good but the cmc plus I tried in 8/10rd always had issues with last round feeding. Surprisely I have always gotten lucky with the Wilson mags and gotten them on sale for cheaper then cmc. But next mags I'll try are tripp... heard great things about them. I always have checkmates which I never had issues with.
Les baer is on my want list... I'd skip the kimber and sig becuz of mim parts.. they work but I rather not risk it and go forged parts...Comment
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Thanks for the review.
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I agree on Ed Brown's finish. It's a baked on coating but it doesn't have the same durability as Hard Hat. The only thing that wears faster than Ed Brown's finish is bluing or parkerized.Originally posted by G. Michael HopfHard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.Comment
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Please school me! wandering around these 1911 for Accuracy / cost.
adjustable rear sight, only for range toy, don't care FTF
RIA 1911 FS Match $700
Sig 1911 TTT $999 (Adjustable Novak rear sight)
Sig 1911 Target $1029 : Gun Digest Book "The Accurate Handgun" says 1.25"/25
Kimber Gold Match $1300
SpringField TRP Full Rail $1600
Dan Wesson PM7 $1600
Les Baer Premier II $2000, 3"/50
Kimber Super Match $2000, 1"/25
So far thinking Sig 1911 Target would be nice, for 1st 1911 and Nelson / Fusion upper??Comment
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Any of the above in your hands will be accuratePlease school me! wandering around these 1911 for Accuracy / cost.
adjustable rear sight, only for range toy, don't care FTF
RIA 1911 FS Match $700
Sig 1911 TTT $999 (Adjustable Novak rear sight)
Sig 1911 Target $1029 : Gun Digest Book "The Accurate Handgun" says 1.25"/25
Kimber Gold Match $1300
SpringField TRP Full Rail $1600
Dan Wesson PM7 $1600
Les Baer Premier II $2000, 3"/50
Kimber Super Match $2000, 1"/25
So far thinking Sig 1911 Target would be nice, for 1st 1911 and Nelson / Fusion upper??
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If you can shoot 3" groups at 50 yards, then I recommend buying the Les Baer. If you can only shoot 3" groups at 25 yards, then any of the guns in your list will be suitable since they'll be more accurate than you are.Please school me! wandering around these 1911 for Accuracy / cost.
adjustable rear sight, only for range toy, don't care FTF
RIA 1911 FS Match $700
Sig 1911 TTT $999 (Adjustable Novak rear sight)
Sig 1911 Target $1029 : Gun Digest Book "The Accurate Handgun" says 1.25"/25
Kimber Gold Match $1300
SpringField TRP Full Rail $1600
Dan Wesson PM7 $1600
Les Baer Premier II $2000, 3"/50
Kimber Super Match $2000, 1"/25
So far thinking Sig 1911 Target would be nice, for 1st 1911 and Nelson / Fusion upper??Originally posted by G. Michael HopfHard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.Comment
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Thank You! I was looking inter-web at lunch break....
Impulse buy, Les Baer Premier II 1.5" Guarantee
oh, please listen to me,
result accuracy(or inaccuracy) = (Gun & Ammo Ransom Rest accuracy) + (Shooter Accuracy)
case (1) shooter performance 3" at 50
Les Baer 1.5"/50 $2500 + shooter 3"/50 = 4.5" at 50
other 4"/50 $800 + shooter 3"/50 = 7.0" at 50
36% reduced grouping by $1700 investment
case (2) shooter performance 6" at 50
Les Baer 1.5"/50 $2500 + shooter 6"/50 = 7.5" at 50
other 4"/50 $800 + shooter 6"/50 = 10.0" at 50
25% reduced grouping by $1700 investment
So Both shooter (3"/50, 3"/25) can get income from investment, just a % difference.Comment
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If the difference of 2.5" @ 50 yards is meaningful to you, I assume this is for bullseye shooting? In that case, I'd go straight for a Les Baer with the 1.5" @ 50 yards guarantee option. I don't know if anybody else offers something better.oh, please listen to me,
result accuracy(or inaccuracy) = (Gun & Ammo Ransom Rest accuracy) + (Shooter Accuracy)
case (1) shooter performance 3" at 50
Les Baer 1.5"/50 $2500 + shooter 3"/50 = 4.5" at 50
other 4"/50 $800 + shooter 3"/50 = 7.0" at 50
36% reduced grouping by $1700 investment
case (2) shooter performance 6" at 50
Les Baer 1.5"/50 $2500 + shooter 6"/50 = 7.5" at 50
other 4"/50 $800 + shooter 6"/50 = 10.0" at 50
25% reduced grouping by $1700 investment
So Both shooter (3"/50, 3"/25) can get income from investment, just a % difference.Originally posted by G. Michael HopfHard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.Comment
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You forgot to mention that the Sig offers front strap checkering at a price-point way lower than any other manufacturer.Comment
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I just recently bought 2 Les Baer Premier II. One is 3" @ 50 yards while the other is a more customized hard chromed PII with 1.5" guarantee. Can't wait to take both out and see how they compare.Comment
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Don't have a ransom rest but I will try shooting off a sandbag rest and see what I can do. Maybe try a couple different types of ammo too.
I have shot a few different 1911's, Ed Brown, Night Hawk, Wilson Combat and Dan Wesson and I can shoot the Les Baer the most accurately. Their blued finish might not be the nicest but if you are looking for a good shooter, I don't think you can go wrong with any Baer.
But if anyone is looking for a really accurate shooting 45, I highly recommend a CGW CZ 97B-E.Comment
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