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  • jkcerda
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 9230

    AR pistol

    PLEASE help me out there, building one but before July1st but I am pretty much "lost" when it comes to rules/regs. it's from an 80% lower that I made a couple of years ago and never mounted,what do I need and what if anything can I do to the upper/brace? can I put a BB? compensator? needs to be serialized? registered?
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    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    Must have fixed mag no other option for ar pistol or single shot.

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      jkcerda
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 9230

      Originally posted by edgerly779
      Must have fixed mag no other option for ar pistol or single shot.
      can I do this to it?


      Originally posted by NATEWA
      Keep the pistol and make a fixed mag, single shot.

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      Last edited by jkcerda; 03-06-2018, 4:23 PM.

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      • #5
        Califpatriot
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 2438

        What is the process for legally converting a single-shot pistol into fixed mag semi-automatic pistol?

        Can you still create you own AR pistol (from an 80% lower) after July 2018, as long as you serialize and such? Or is it now or never?
        In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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        • #6
          jkcerda
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 9230

          Originally posted by Califpatriot
          What is the process for legally converting a single-shot pistol into fixed mag semi-automatic pistol?

          Can you still create you own AR pistol (from an 80% lower) after July 2018, as long as you serialize and such? Or is it now or never?
          pretty much what I am trying to get to , things are murky to say the least

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          • #7
            rm1911
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 4073

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            They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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            • #8
              Strykeback
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 1574

              Haha this. I thought the cut off was this past January 1st. I'm in for any new details. Still haven't figured out how or if I can even serialize my gen 2 polymer 80 lowers.

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              • #9
                SSOUNN
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 846

                I’d recommend the FC Hook w/ BF10 or Mean Arms Loader, or JT HellFighter Kit for AR Pistols..

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                • #10
                  BigPimping
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 21441

                  This is murky territory
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                  • #11
                    beanz2
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12032

                    Originally posted by rm1911
                    The first thing you’ll need to do is get a whole bunch of big cardboard boxes and a couple dozen rolls of packing tape.
                    Originally posted by BigPimping
                    This is murky territory
                    These gentlemen are right on. CA is getting murkier and murkier. He needs cardboard boxes, packing tape and a big moving truck. Or a time machine.
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                    • #12
                      sbo80
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 2265

                      it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
                      1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
                      2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
                      3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.

                      There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.

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                      • #13
                        Strykeback
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1574

                        Originally posted by sbo80
                        it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
                        1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
                        2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
                        3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.

                        There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.
                        Great outline for the rookies to this matter. The fact they are trying to add new rules I guess makes us all rookies. I had some 80percenters pistols built last year but being the 9mm is my favorite setup for home defense even with a bullet button. Is rather have the BB rather them a fixed mag break action so registration it is to atleast show the effort to stay legal in any later disputes if they keep changing laws.

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                        • #14
                          SteveHamn
                          Member
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 196

                          Originally posted by sbo80
                          it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
                          1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
                          2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
                          3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.

                          There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.
                          Would this qualify as single shot?



                          Also, why do you say you need to VolReg in Step 2?
                          Last edited by SteveHamn; 03-07-2018, 3:48 PM.

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                          • #15
                            jkcerda
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 9230

                            Originally posted by Strykeback
                            Great outline for the rookies to this matter. The fact they are trying to add new rules I guess makes us all rookies. I had some 80percenters pistols built last year but being the 9mm is my favorite setup for home defense even with a bullet button. Is rather have the BB rather them a fixed mag break action so registration it is to atleast show the effort to stay legal in any later disputes if they keep changing laws.

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                            can you still register AR pistols you built last year?
                            post 2

                            The following MUST be registered before 7/1/2018 (or converted into a non-AW configuration, or removed from the state, or sold to a Dangerous Weapons Permit CA FFL or an out-of-state FFL, or disassembled, before 7/1/2018):

                            Semiautomatic pistols (centerfire or rimfire) with non-detachable/non-fixed magazines (aka, "bullet buttons") and one or more of the below features:
                            A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
                            A second handgrip (forward pistol grip)
                            A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                            The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
                            seems to imply I can,

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