PLEASE help me out there, building one but before July1st but I am pretty much "lost" when it comes to rules/regs. it's from an 80% lower that I made a couple of years ago and never mounted,what do I need and what if anything can I do to the upper/brace? can I put a BB? compensator? needs to be serialized? registered?
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can I do this to it?
Keep the pistol and make a fixed mag, single shot.
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What is the process for legally converting a single-shot pistol into fixed mag semi-automatic pistol?
Can you still create you own AR pistol (from an 80% lower) after July 2018, as long as you serialize and such? Or is it now or never?In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.Comment
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pretty much what I am trying to get to , things are murky to say the least
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Haha this. I thought the cut off was this past January 1st. I'm in for any new details. Still haven't figured out how or if I can even serialize my gen 2 polymer 80 lowers.
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it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.
There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.Comment
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Great outline for the rookies to this matter. The fact they are trying to add new rules I guess makes us all rookies. I had some 80percenters pistols built last year but being the 9mm is my favorite setup for home defense even with a bullet button. Is rather have the BB rather them a fixed mag break action so registration it is to atleast show the effort to stay legal in any later disputes if they keep changing laws.it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.
There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.
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Would this qualify as single shot?it's not so bad. there's 3 problems:
1. AW. you can't make an AW, so no bullet button, must be fixed mag now.
2. Marking. Either engrave it now AND register it with volreg, or wait until after July and apply for a serial to engrave (which will also register it). After July also has the whole 3.7 oz metal thing, so polymer might not fly then. That rule doesn't apply until July so register now gets around it.
3. Unsafe handguns. You cannot manufacture an unsafe handgun, so to be 100%, it cannot be semi-auto. If you are feeling saucy, build and register single-shot, then convert to semi afterward. That's the big "gray area" which some feel is not actually legal.
There's many threads on these, arguing the finer points, but the basics are not really in dispute. Except for #1, which is the most clear, 2 and 3 have risks, and may or may not get you a felony.
Also, why do you say you need to VolReg in Step 2?Last edited by SteveHamn; 03-07-2018, 3:48 PM.Comment
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can you still register AR pistols you built last year?Great outline for the rookies to this matter. The fact they are trying to add new rules I guess makes us all rookies. I had some 80percenters pistols built last year but being the 9mm is my favorite setup for home defense even with a bullet button. Is rather have the BB rather them a fixed mag break action so registration it is to atleast show the effort to stay legal in any later disputes if they keep changing laws.
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seems to imply I can,The following MUST be registered before 7/1/2018 (or converted into a non-AW configuration, or removed from the state, or sold to a Dangerous Weapons Permit CA FFL or an out-of-state FFL, or disassembled, before 7/1/2018):
Semiautomatic pistols (centerfire or rimfire) with non-detachable/non-fixed magazines (aka, "bullet buttons") and one or more of the below features:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
A second handgrip (forward pistol grip)
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.Comment
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