m&p 2.0 full-size vs compact comparison (help needed!)

[Bobby Ricigliano]

The new M&PC 2.0 is about twice as big as the 1.0. The 1.0 magazines are incompatible just as G26 mags would not work in a G19.

[dasupa203]

The 1.0 compact 10 round mags ("10/12" mags, if you will) will definitely not work, they are too short. Smith and Wesson doesn't have a 9mm "10/15" mag listed on their site, so I don't think they exist yet. Our options as non-exempt people are to use 10/17 mags with the included spacers or get the 15 round mags blocked by a dealer with a high-cap permit.

I imagine S&W will create some factory 10/15 magazines eventually. The 10/12 and 10/17 mags are the exact same thing with different length plastic bottom pieces, they just need to make a third length bottom piece.

is this what you're referring to? https://www.brownells.com/magazines/...prod23208.aspx

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1326862846/smith-and-wesson-magazine-s-and-w-m-and-p-m-and-p-m20-9mm-luger-steel-blue

This is a 10 rd one, that seems that the body is made of two separate halves... if that makes sense to u guys...?!

Thnx!!

[champu]

is this what you're referring to? https://www.brownells.com/magazines/...prod23208.aspx

That is what I was referring to as a 10/17, yes.

[code_blue]

is this what you're referring to? https://www.brownells.com/magazines/...prod23208.aspx

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1326862846/smith-and-wesson-magazine-s-and-w-m-and-p-m-and-p-m20-9mm-luger-steel-blue

This is a 10 rd one, that seems that the body is made of two separate halves... if that makes sense to u guys...?!

Thnx!!

Correct. Quite genius by S&W to avoid producing a separate mag body for mag restricted states or having to dimple standard mags.

[SkyHawk]

Correct. Quite genius by S&W to avoid producing a separate mag body for mag restricted states or having to dimple standard mags.

But it is a different mag body. And it is more work for them to produce these, not less. If they could still dimple mag bodies, they would - because then the mag body, spring, and basepad + basepad retainer would all be the exact same.

As it is - now they have to produce and inventory different bodies, basepads, springs, etc.

The problem is the nanny states did not like dimpled mag bodies because they see them as too easy to modify back to standard capacity.

[code_blue]

But it is a different mag body. And it is more work for them to produce these, not less. If they could still dimple mag bodies, they would - because then the mag body, spring, and basepad + basepad retainer would all be the exact same.

As it is - now they have to produce and inventory different bodies, basepads, springs, etc.

The problem is the nanny states did not like dimpled mag bodies because they see them as too easy to modify back to standard capacity.

The mag bodies of the 10-rnd FS themselves are identical to the 1.0 compact mag bodies, so S&W just used existing compact parts (less the base plate) to build 10-rnd FS mags, but I acknowledge your point.

When I still had my 1.0 compact, I believe that the 10-rnd mags had the capacity block integrated into the floorplate. It's been a while, so I could be wrong.

[Gregchico]

http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/magblock-universal-pistol-limiter.html

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https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8276-KwikWeld-Reinforced/dp/B0006O1ICY

[SkyHawk]

The mag bodies of the 10-rnd FS themselves are identical to the 1.0 compact mag bodies, so S&W just used existing compact parts (less the base plate) to build 10-rnd FS mags, but I acknowledge your point.

When I still had my 1.0 compact, I believe that the 10-rnd mags had the capacity block integrated into the floorplate. It's been a while, so I could be wrong.

Ah, I thought you were talking about these (from your Midway link). I hate these style mags. You cannot get spares for them. Oh I suppose you could cut down a standard spring, but where do you get the baseplates if you need them? I never have seen spares offered. And forget about using aftermarket baseplates. These things infuriate me - I always sell them and get blocked standard mags.

[etwinam]

I stand corrected. The ad is for a full sized. I should have known. They don't make 10rd mags for the compact yet. They're all blocked standard mags so they wouldn't have that giant plastic spacer at the bottom. Good eye guys

[Whatisthis?]

http://www.magazineblocks.com/magent...l-limiter.html
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https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8276.../dp/B0006O1ICY

Not to thread jack but is there an online retailer with a high cap mag permit or is out of state that would block 2.0 compact mags and send them to me?

[code_blue]

Ah, I thought you were talking about these (from your Midway link). I hate these style mags. You cannot get spares for them. Oh I suppose you could cut down a standard spring, but where do you get the baseplates if you need them? I never have seen spares offered. And forget about using aftermarket baseplates. These things infuriate me - I always sell them and get blocked standard mags.

Yea, they suck and you're correct. Replacement baseplates are nowhere to be found. When I couldn't find 1.0 compact mags, I took FS ones and dremelled off the baseplate to fit the compact better. The bottom half is a useless piece of plastic.

Other oddballs, IIRC, HK 10-rnd mags are like Hexmags where the body prevents modification to standard cap. So, HK has completely different parts for 10-rnd mags.

[code_blue]

Not to thread jack but is there an online retailer with a high cap mag permit or is out of state that would block 2.0 compact mags and send them to me?

Alphacat. He's a vendor here, although I have not seen much of his activity lately ever since his unfortunate life incidents.

[Garrett128]

I stand corrected. It's a full size.

[Deadshot514]

[mej16489]

That ad does show an M&P 9 2.0 compact. It does not show the magazine insert/adapter in the picture though. Here's a picture of an M&P 9 2.0 compact and full size side by side. The S&W box and foam inserts are identical for both guns. Note the sizes of both pistols are very close except for the grip length. Looks like that compact is being sold with full size 10 round magazines which will make the grip length the same as a full size M&P 9 2.0.

Your posted picture is even more supporting evidence that the post referenced by the OP is NOT a compact.

Look closely at the grip contours. Look at how much of the slide is exposed in front of the dust cover. The gap at the bottom of the case near the magazine well is different for two reasons. The OP post doesn't have a magazine inserted and I think it's sitting higher in the case.