ROLAND SPECIAL

[mlevans66]

http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/the-guns-network/the-roland-special-glock-19/

Any doing this to there Glock? MP? XD? It seems like a pretty cool idea. Ive even seen some turning G19x into Roland Spec. Thoughts? Pics?

[Jay-lee]

My glock 34 basically is, I just don't have a comp cuz no threaded barrel. Absolutely love and and it's super tacticool.

[L84CABO]

Garand Thumb has a video out on his Roland and the build in general...although he admits ATEI didn't do his.

[piedrarc]

[Fishslayer]

Garand Thumb has a video out on his Roland and the build in general...although he admits ATEI didn't do his.

I assume he eventually got to the point? I got bored & clicked away...

[JTROKS]

I was just waiting for Garand Thumb to advise a Ghost or Limcat holster and mag holders. Gotta have two 140mm mags and 2 big sticks to avoid running dry to slide lock.

[k1dude]

Too bad we can't have nice things like that in Kalifornia.

But the comment that the KKM Precision Match Barrel offers no decrease in reliability over a stock Glock barrel is complete BS. Especially for someone who can't be choosy over what ammo they have to use.

[mlevans66]

Why is it dumb?

[robert101]

I didn't write the "dumb" comment but noted in the article was "for concealed carry". Now with all the added features it would be too much for concealed carry in my opinion. In that sense it is dumb to me.

[piedrarc]

Why is it dumb?

[mlevans66]

Well, with now with showing the beneifts of optics on pistols you should be able to pull that dot quicker then with irons. A comp on a pistol will provide a flatter follow up shot else what's the point of it right? Having a light on a firearm is an argument for another thread. All together I can see this being a plus for people. Upgrading you gun is not a bad thing.

[mlevans66]

Also this was interesting

Interesting that this topic should come up. After seeing benefits of RDS use on duty pistols, a number of officers around here had sub-compact back-up (BUG) and compact off-duty pistols equipped with RDS’s (primarily S&W Shield, G26, S&W M&P9c, and G19). Interestingly, many felt the compact pistols with shorter slides were actually easier to shoot accurately and rapidly with the RDS compared to the larger duty pistols. With an RDS equipped pistol, there is no “sight radius”, so there is no accuracy benefit to having a pistol with a longer slide. In addition, many end-users report that when shooting rapidly, it is easier to track the RDS dot shot-to-shot when mounted on a shorter slide. As a result, many shooters who previously used long slide, iron sighted pistols like the G34/G35 to benefit from the enhanced sight radius on demanding shots requiring precision accuracy have now found they can use a smaller pistol like a G19 with an RDS and shoot just as accurately with the smaller pistol as they previously would with longer iron sighted handguns. Going one step further, folks found that with a compensator installed, they can have a compact handgun that is softer shooting, lighter weight, and offers better accuracy than their previous irons sighted long slide pistols. As a result, late last year, we began testing the use of RDS equipped G19's with KKM compensators attached. Note that this is described in our 5 yr updated RDS test report.

[IMG]

The KKM compensated G19's have a bit more blast than a stock G19, but not anything to complain about. In slow fire at 25 yds, they shoot just as accurately as any other G19 with a match barrel--I shot two KKM compensated G19's yesterday slow fire at 25 yds and got a 100-5x & 99-3x. Where the KKM compensated G19's shine is in rapid fire, they are slightly faster, but more importantly result in much tighter shot groups, especially at longer distances. I am a huge fan of the DOW at pistol-forum; a couple of recent DOW allowed quantifiable data to be gleaned from shooting the same drill with a G19 with both a KKM compensated barrel and a non-compensated KKM barrel: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....06-Three-Bills and https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ek-108-GM-Test. The compensated G19 was consistently faster to shoot--particularly at longer ranges, generally offered better accuracy, and had noticeably tighter groups. When shot 10 rounds slow fire at 25 yds on an NRA B8 target, the KKM comp barrel shot 99-3x, the KKM standard barrel shot 100-3x.

The G19 with KKM compensator is the same size as the previously used G34's and fit into standard G34 holsters, including the excellent Safariland ALS 6354DO.

https://primaryandsecondary.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-roland-special.827/

[piedrarc]

Well, with now with showing the beneifts of optics on pistols you should be able to pull that dot quicker then with irons. A comp on a pistol will provide a flatter follow up shot else what's the point of it right?

[mlevans66]

Its not gimmick it updated tech. Yes you need to learn the fundamentals this just adds to it. Do you hunt with a scope or do you use irons?