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  • charlestheignorant
    Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 104

    Ruger security six gunsmith

  • #2
    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11768

    "In double action sometimes it goes sometimes it doesn’t."

    Please clarify:

    Does this mean sometimes the cylinder turns correctly and locks into place
    or
    Does this mean that sometimes it fires and sometimes it doesn't.

    These are two different problems.

    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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    • #3
      aspenvalley
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 693

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      • #4
        JTROKS
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        If the gun checks out fine in the lockup and it only fails to set off the round in double action, your hammer spring might be weak.



        I’d also look into the end of the transfer bar to see if part of it is missing or grounded/polished off.

        What brand ammo were you shooting? We’re they reloads or factory?
        The wise man said just find your place
        In the eye of the storm
        Seek the roses along the way
        Just beware of the thorns...
        K. Meine

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        • #5
          Che762x39
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 4538

          Those were nice guns. AZ is full of gunsmiths so just look it up.

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          • #6
            dfletcher
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2006
            • 14794

            Change out the mainspring - takes 30 seconds, costs $8.00 and all you have to remove is the grips. If that doesn't take care of the problem it's probably the hand, but on Rugers the hand is a pretty sizeable chunk of metal and hardly ever gets lazy.
            GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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            • #7
              aspenvalley
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 693

              Ruger has a service center in Prescott AZ. I have not heard of Ruger standing behind any of their guns, unless it has been hacked on. Do a google search on their service center fixing issues. https://www.ruger.com/dataProcess/customerService/

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              • #8
                ojisan
                Agent 86
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2008
                • 11768

                Since the OP has not updated us, it would seem that it is time to speculate.

                I will propose that the timing is just fine, that the gun needs nothing but a good cleaning, especially the back of the cylinder and ejector star.
                Misfires in DA only when everything else works fine is a classic sign of built-up gunk between these parts.
                The star ends up sitting on a cushion of gunk instead of resting solidly on the back of the cylinder.
                This cushions the strike of the firing pin.

                The distance the hammer travels back and then releases is less in DA, compared to SA when the hammer is cocked all the way back.
                The hammer spring is compressed less in DA than in SA and so the DA hammer hit to the firing pin is weaker.
                That's why it misfires in DA only.

                The tight precision fit of parts that we all like means that the parts have to be kept clean to work.
                Last edited by ojisan; 02-02-2018, 5:52 PM.

                Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                • #9
                  charlestheignorant
                  Member
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 104

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                  • #10
                    leman77
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1168

                    I'd try to post this up on a Ruger forum. Someone there might know a Ruger specific gunsmith that can help. I bought an old Security Six police trade in last year and it's a tank. One of my favorite revolvers. Good luck.

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                    • #11
                      ojisan
                      Agent 86
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 11768

                      What is your location?

                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                      • #12
                        charlestheignorant
                        Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 104

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                        • #13
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11768

                          D'oh. Sorry...I should have re-read your first post.


                          If you have off set primer strikes, yes, that shows a timing problem.
                          However, when the hammer is pulled all the way back to cock for SA fire, you say that the cylinder times up right and the gun fires OK.
                          So, the hand / ratchet points / ejector star / cylinder and hammer should all be good.
                          We go to the DA sear next, item 29 that is pushed by 31 and 32:


                          My further speculation is that this part is not engaging the hammer correctly.
                          Could just be gunk binding the spring and plunger.
                          The parts are robust and not prone to wearing out or early failure.

                          Too bad you are not closer, this should not be hard to fix.
                          (No, you can't send it to me, I'm not an FFL).

                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                          • #14
                            jeffrice6
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5171

                            Send it to Ruger, they will fix for free and update and replace anything else it needs!
                            WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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                            • #15
                              aspenvalley
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 693

                              Originally posted by jeffrice6
                              Send it to Ruger, they will fix for free and update and replace anything else it needs!
                              I recommended this to the OP but he said it was not an option. I am curious as to know as why Ruger told him they will not fix it. They only time I have heard of them not fixing one of their guns is when the frame is soon out of spec they can't fix it. Then they will give you a discount.

                              I have also heard they will replace your aftermarket parts as well

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