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  • #16
    virulosity
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1569

    Originally posted by Inlander Arms
    You would still need to build it using the single shot bolt action kit.
    The single shot exemption expired in 2017 so how is this legal?

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    • #17
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9263

      Originally posted by virulosity
      The single shot exemption expired in 2017 so how is this legal?
      The single shot exemption is alive and well, it just changed a little from prior years. Please refer to Penal Code section 32100 for the current provisions of the Single Shot Exemption.
      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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      • #18
        virulosity
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 1569

        you are correct, here is a link to it:
        shall apply to a semiautomatic pistol that has been temporarily or permanently altered so that it will not fire in a semiautomatic mode."
        Last edited by virulosity; 03-07-2018, 9:35 PM.

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        • #19
          Inlander Arms
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 936

          Originally posted by virulosity
          you are correct, here is a link to it:
          shall apply to a semiautomatic pistol that has been temporarily or permanently altered so that it will not fire in a semiautomatic mode."
          The part that you highlighted in bold is the change they made in 2014 to stop FFLs from taking a factory built off roster semi auto pistol and converting it to single shot so they could sell it here. Now SSE2 requires it to be built from 80% to a single shot bolt action.
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          • #20
            RickD427
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2007
            • 9263

            Originally posted by Inlander Arms
            The part that you highlighted in bold is the change they made in 2014 to stop FFLs from taking a factory built off roster semi auto pistol and converting it to single shot so they could sell it here. Now SSE2 requires it to be built from 80% to a single shot bolt action.
            It doesn't have to be bolt action, it could also be a "Break-Top" design. In either case, the weapon must also be dimensionally compliant.

            Please note that "SSE2" is a colloquial term. It has no official meaning.
            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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            • #21
              BrassCase
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2011
              • 3177

              Originally posted by Inlander Arms
              You can do a roster-exempt 80% build using our compliance kit and register it before July 1st and you're good to go.

              Our kit works with:

              Glockstore SS80 (Glock 43)
              Polymer80 PF940sc (Glock 26)
              Polymer80 PF940c (Glock 19)
              Polymer80 PF940v2 (Glock 17)
              Sig P320 (Most versions where the slide and front of the frame are flush)
              I looked at your page, very interesting. I take then that the process would be to install an item such as yours and then take to an FFL to register it or is it done through the DOJ only?

              Edit: Saw your FAQ page and I see that I would do this through the DOJ not an FFL.
              Last edited by BrassCase; 03-07-2018, 11:44 PM.
              I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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              • #22
                virulosity
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 1569

                And this single shot pistol can never be converted to semi-auto?

                Originally posted by RickD427
                It doesn't have to be bolt action, it could also be a "Break-Top" design. In either case, the weapon must also be dimensionally compliant.

                Please note that "SSE2" is a colloquial term. It has no official meaning.

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                • #23
                  RickD427
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Jan 2007
                  • 9263

                  Originally posted by virulosity
                  And this single shot pistol can never be converted to semi-auto?
                  That's the subject of much debate and not much case law.

                  There are at least two different theories of criminal liability that would support the prosecution of a person who builds a semi-auto from what was once a single-shot. I'm not aware of any such cases actually being filed. At the same time, there have been no case decisions holding the "conversion" to be legal.

                  The large LE agencies that are actively working gun cases seem to be favoring a civil court forum for the eventual test case.
                  Last edited by RickD427; 03-08-2018, 12:05 AM.
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                  • #24
                    ajb78
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 1441

                    Originally posted by Inlander Arms
                    You can do a roster-exempt 80% build using our compliance kit and register it before July 1st and you're good to go.

                    Our kit works with:

                    Glockstore SS80 (Glock 43)
                    Polymer80 PF940sc (Glock 26)
                    Polymer80 PF940c (Glock 19)
                    Polymer80 PF940v2 (Glock 17)
                    Sig P320 (Most versions where the slide and front of the frame are flush)
                    Question, how is this going to work on the subcompact and single stack frames? In the picture below, it appears the device extends to the front of the ejection port; wouldn't that end up covering ~half of the ejection port on the subcompact and single stack?

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                    • #25
                      Inlander Arms
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 936

                      Originally posted by ajb78
                      Question, how is this going to work on the subcompact and single stack frames? In the picture below, it appears the device extends to the front of the ejection port; wouldn't that end up covering ~half of the ejection port on the subcompact and single stack?

                      Sorry for not keeping track of this thread. If you're still wondering, here's a couple pictures from our website that shows how the Easy Bolt will attach to a G43 slide. Yes, it does slightly encroach on the breech, but not enough to cause functionality issues, especially with our 25acp barrel insert. As far as the slide being thinner, thankfully the universal nature of the Easy Bolt's design is able to compensate for that as well. Feel free to call (408)634-2248 or email us info@inlanderarms.com with any other questions.


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                      • #26
                        FlyingShooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 831

                        Originally posted by Inlander Arms
                        Sorry for not keeping track of this thread. If you're still wondering, here's a couple pictures from our website that shows how the Easy Bolt will attach to a G43 slide. Yes, it does slightly encroach on the breech, but not enough to cause functionality issues, especially with our 25acp barrel insert. As far as the slide being thinner, thankfully the universal nature of the Easy Bolt's design is able to compensate for that as well. Feel free to call (408)634-2248 or email us info@inlanderarms.com with any other questions.


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                        • #27
                          smittty
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6253

                          Originally posted by RECCE556
                          So basically no polymer based 80% frame will be legal.
                          All the replies above are BS!

                          You guys copying and pasting the law, Stop already!

                          Polymer80 is legal to complete with your own serial number, before the end of June 2018. After July 1, you’ll need to apply for a doj issued serial number which will likely take forever so consider the end of June your polymer80 end date!

                          All metal framed handguns don’t have the 3.7 oz stainless insert requirement so after July 1 you will need to apply for, and be issued a DOJ serial number before you complete your build.

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                          • #28
                            boopiejones
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 2044

                            my Benitez goes to 11

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                            • #29
                              smittty
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6253

                              Originally posted by Inlander Arms
                              80% builds completed and registered before July 1st will not need the 3.7oz stainless, but yes, everything after that will.

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                              • #30
                                Inlander Arms
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 936

                                You're right. Just needs to be built before the 1st.
                                (c) By January 1, 2019, any person who, as of July 1, 2018, owns a firearm that does not bear a serial number assigned to it pursuant to either Section 23910 or pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Part 1 of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, shall do all of the following:
                                (1) Apply to the Department of Justice for a unique serial number or other mark of identification pursuant to Section 29182.
                                (2) Within 10 days of receiving a unique serial number or other mark of identification from the department, the unique serial number or other mark of identification provided by the department shall be engraved or permanently affixed to the firearm in accordance with regulations prescribed by the department pursuant to Section 29182 and in a manner that meets or exceeds the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms pursuant to subsection (i) of Section 923 of Title 18 of the United States Code and regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                                (3) After the serial number provided by the department is engraved or otherwise permanently affixed to the firearm, the person shall notify the department of that fact in a manner and within a time period specified by the department, and with sufficient information to identify the owner of the firearm, the unique serial number or mark of identification provided by the department, and the firearm in a manner prescribed by the department.
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