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  • Chewy65
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 5083

    Why Glock Leg?

    The question why it is called "Glock Leg", when someone shoots themselves when holstering. People shoot themselves when reholstering with other striker fired pistols, just as they do with 1911 and DA guns when improperly used. Say the manual safety was left off on the 1911 or one continued to force a DA gun into their holster although the hammer was pushing back. Is it that the Glock is that much easier than other striker guns to accidentally trigger a firing or is that for such a long period of time it nearly totally occupied the striker field?
  • #2
    TKM
    Onward through the fog!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 10657

    The dim believe that the Glock has no safety.

    Then they go and get a thumbsnap or shirt tail tucked into the trigger guard while holstering and claim it went off all by itself. Mostly NYPD.
    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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    • #3
      tnlrat37
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2166

      "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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      • #4
        Barbarosa
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2166

        You have to remember there was a time when Glock was the only plastic, striker-fired gun. When it first gained notoriety in the 80's there were numerous lawsuits against Glock for AD's. It was a major reason Glock upgraded their guns safety-wise. The term "Glock-leg" was coined back then and just stuck.

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        • #5
          Gryff
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • May 2006
          • 12686

          Originally posted by Chewy65
          The question why it is called "Glock Leg", when someone shoots themselves when holstering. People shoot themselves when reholstering with other striker fired pistols, just as they do with 1911 and DA guns when improperly used.
          Because Glocks were the gun that set off the polymer-framed, striker-fired craze. And they probably have sold more than the competitors combined. Thus, when incidents of negligent discharges while holstering spiked because of the lack of a safety, it would be expected for the error to be named after the gun it was statistically likely with which to happen.
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          • #6
            tuna quesadilla
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 5147

            Glock is the most visible and ubiquitous brand of striker-fired pistol, so it's going to be the one that attracts the most ire. Nobody ever heard of "Heckler & Koch VP9 Leg" but you'll sure as hell get Heckler & Koch VP9 Leg if you try to shove a Condition 0 VP9 into an obstructed holster.

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            • #7
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23528

              Glock makes cool ish. Sometime cool ish and and un-cool people just don't mix.

              Witness:


              Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-21-2018, 10:59 PM.
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              • #8
                cantdance
                Senior Member
                • May 2014
                • 919

                It can be done with a 4" Model 29 S&W 44 mag. I found that out the hard way. Didn't hit my leg, just had a large bruise on my hip. Still haven't figured out exactly how it happened. I remember looking down as I re-holstered and seeing the hammer drop in what seemed slow motion.

                Point is it can happen with any gun. So be careful.
                Last edited by cantdance; 01-21-2018, 10:37 PM.

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                • #9
                  tuna quesadilla
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 5147

                  Originally posted by cantdance
                  It can be done with a 4" Model 29 S&W 44 mag. I found that out the hard way. Didn't hit my leg, just had a large bruise on my hip. Still haven't figured out exactly how it happened. I remember looking down as I re-holstered and seeing the hammer drop in what seemed slow motion.

                  Point is it can happen with any gun. So be careful.
                  I'll bet that ruined your day!

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                  • #10
                    SkyHawk
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 23528

                    Originally posted by cantdance
                    It can be done with a 4" Model 29 S&W 44 mag. I found that out the hard way. Didn't hit my leg, just had a large bruise on my hip.
                    Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                    I'll bet that ruined your day underwear!

                    FIFY
                    Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-21-2018, 10:44 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Tango_Down
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 1175

                      Glock leg: A condition where a person shoots himself (or herself) in the leg while holstering their Glock pistol. This can happen with any weapon yielded by...

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                      • #12
                        RickD427
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 9274

                        Originally posted by Chewy65
                        The question why it is called "Glock Leg", when someone shoots themselves when holstering. People shoot themselves when reholstering with other striker fired pistols, just as they do with 1911 and DA guns when improperly used. Say the manual safety was left off on the 1911 or one continued to force a DA gun into their holster although the hammer was pushing back. Is it that the Glock is that much easier than other striker guns to accidentally trigger a firing or is that for such a long period of time it nearly totally occupied the striker field?
                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        Glock makes cool ish. Sometime cool ish and and un-cool people just don't mix.

                        Witness:


                        It's very true that you have the potential to suffer "Glock Leg" from any firearm. There's nothing inherent in Glock's design that would make the malady exclusive to Glocks.

                        But Skyhawk is really onto something here, and I agree with his observation.

                        The malady seems to be really more prevalent among Glock owners (and Glock possessors - How's that for a PC term to describe those that stole someone else's Glock?) than among owners of other handguns. You just never hear folks talking about "H+K Foot", "Beretta Foot", or even "Smith and Wesson Foot."

                        It just may be the case that Glock people tend to be more aggregated on the wrong end of Darwin's scale.
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                        • #13
                          Chewy65
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 5083

                          Originally posted by RickD427
                          It's very true that you have the potential to suffer "Glock Leg" from any firearm. There's nothing inherent in Glock's design that would make the malady exclusive to Glocks.

                          But Skyhawk is really onto something here, and I agree with his observation.

                          The malady seems to be really more prevalent among Glock owners (and Glock possessors - How's that for a PC term to describe those that stole someone else's Glock?) than among owners of other handguns. You just never hear folks talking about "H+K Foot", "Beretta Foot", or even "Smith and Wesson Foot."

                          It just may be the case that Glock people tend to be more aggregated on the wrong end of Darwin's scale.
                          That last part, which I bolded, got some grins. I may pick up a Glock some day and for now am looking at getting a plastic frame little belt gun, but I wondered about the Glock leg term since the first guy I know that shot himself in the leg did it with a 1911 and when holstering my DA/SA Sig I noticed that the hammer can ride up when using a particular holster. I taught myself to ride the hammer with my thumb before I read about the same. One thing the Shield and the Ruger LC has going for them is both can be had with a manual safety, if that is your choice.

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                          • #14
                            MosinVirus
                            Happily Infected
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 5282

                            Wasn't there a Glock backplate made that (when thumbed) would prevent a discharge even if the trigger was being pulled by holstering?

                            Called "Gadget" I believe.
                            Last edited by MosinVirus; 01-22-2018, 12:33 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Chewy65
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 5083

                              Originally posted by boo2112
                              A striker-fired gun with a short and relatively light trigger pull, and no manual safety, is less tolerant of mishandling and more prone to accidents while holstering. With a hammer-fired gun, after decocking you can place your thumb on the hammer while hostering to prevent a discharge if something gets caught in the trigger guard. Similarly, engaging a manual safety prior to holstering can also prevent a discharge if something gets caught in the trigger guard. Glocks (and most striker-fired guns) have neither of these, so if something gets caught in the trigger guard while hostering there isn't anything to prevent a discharge. So while holstering "accidents" are possible with ANY gun, they are more likely with Glocks (and the similar striker-fired guns that came later). Hence the term "Glock Leg".

                              Edit: And per your statement:



                              That would require that TWO things happen for a 1911 or DA gun to discharge while holstering: Something caught in the trigger guard AND a safety that wasn't manually engaged, or a thumb that wasn't on the hammer. With a Glock, only ONE thing needs to happen for the gun to discharge: Something caught in the trigger guard.
                              Thanks for the explanation. Some insist the Glock is safe but I was trained that safe is a relative term. It sounds as though the Glock is less safe than some other pistols.

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