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  • tanks
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4038

    Glocks are falling further behind...

    in competition use.

    Latest Production division survey from USPSA Iron Sight Nations in 2017.

    1) 37% CZ
    2) 21% Tanfoglio
    3) 12% Glock
    4) 9% Sig Sauer
    5) 6% Springfield
    6) 6% Walther

    A year earlier Glock was at 25% (http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/us...production.pdf) and Walther was not even on the map. For Sig and Walther the P320 and PPQ are the reasons for the increased preference I think.
    Last edited by tanks; 01-17-2018, 11:10 AM.
    "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
    "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown
  • #2
    OCEquestrian
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 6899

    In before the first glock fanboy comments!
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      IVC
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 17594

      Funny, I got the same report in my e-mail and was noticing the exact same thing - steel DA/SA are dominating, with CZ/TZ at 65%.

      I was actually surprised by how far Glocks have fallen given that many newer shooters prefer "constant pull" and are scared of the initial double action shot.
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      • #4
        1911R SSS
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 862

        Your crazy for posting this, This thread is going to break Calguns every Glop fan girl is going to reply to this bringing every excuse in the book.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19477

          Glocks have their upsides

          Not sure why a striker fired pistol with a polymer frame would be used in competition.


          The nature of the striker fired system, competition triggers just don’t work as well as a metal frame


          But meh


          It’s a tool... any gun




          Shooting is all about the person.....


          Some folks will buy the same guitar as eddy Van Halen.... but it is the musician that makes the music.


          So focus on your shooting skills not the brand of gun
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            kmas
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 1315

            More expensive than the first two

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            • #7
              pointerman
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 369

              Originally posted by IVC
              Funny, I got the same report in my e-mail and was noticing the exact same thing - steel DA/SA are dominating, with CZ/TZ at 65%.

              I was actually surprised by how far Glocks have fallen given that many newer shooters prefer "constant pull" and are scared of the initial double action shot.
              Newer shooters don't go to the Nationals and won't be part of this survey. These are people trying to get the most out of their game and the best way to do that is with a steel hammer fired pistol.

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              • #8
                beanz2
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 12032

                But, but, all you need is a Glock 19.





                Last edited by beanz2; 01-17-2018, 11:05 AM.
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                • #9
                  hambam105
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7083

                  What are the figures if you exclude California competitors?

                  No doubt competitors are fed up with:
                  (A) Fancy-smachie over priced 1911s gunsmith alterations that repeatedly fail.
                  (B) The krapp trigger systems intrinsic on any polyplastico striker fired pistol.

                  And while I still have your attention, what is the makeup of the pistols used in the top 10% of the Nations USPSA iron sight competitors?

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                  • #10
                    JTROKS
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 13093

                    Last time I shot at an indoor range I noticed there were actually more CZs being shot. The Glocks that we’re on the line were rentals. I was there with a 1911 and a revolver.
                    The wise man said just find your place
                    In the eye of the storm
                    Seek the roses along the way
                    Just beware of the thorns...
                    K. Meine

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                    • #11
                      rmatt
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1057

                      In Production for 2017 Nats, looking at the top 10 finishers, a majority are shooting EAA/Tangfolio.
                      Competition is where you find out you're slow, can't see well, are not accurate, have poor gun handling, can't visualize, have equipment that doesn't work and either accept it OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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                      • #12
                        tanks
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 4038

                        Originally posted by hambam105
                        What are the figures if you exclude California competitors?

                        No doubt competitors are fed up with:
                        (A) Fancy-smachie over priced 1911s gunsmith alterations that repeatedly fail.
                        (B) The krapp trigger systems intrinsic on any polyplastico striker fired pistol.

                        And while I still have your attention, what is the makeup of the pistols used in the top 10% of the Nations USPSA iron sight competitors?
                        No idea about CA shooters and I don't think the roster comes into play much if at all for serious competition shooters. The ammo, travel and training costs are a lot more for most than firearm costs, so paying off-roster prices for a one time purchase of competition firearms most likely is not an issue.

                        1911s are NOT allowed in Production division so your comment in regards to those do not apply.
                        "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                        "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                        • #13
                          semilin
                          Member
                          • Aug 2017
                          • 297

                          It's not the gun at all. All Glock guns are the same as last years. It's the game and rule to make one gun be more used than the other. If USPSA allow's 22lr or even air pistol with only paper targets, then maybe other brands will win out of these CZ/TZ.
                          God created man;
                          Sam Colt made them equal.

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                          • #14
                            heidad01
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 4902

                            Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                            In before the first glock fanboy comments!
                            Good one.

                            Waiting for germ1.

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                            • #15
                              heidad01
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 4902

                              Originally posted by tanks
                              No idea about CA shooters and I don't think the roster comes into play much if at all for serious competition shooters. The ammo, travel and training costs are a lot more for most than firearm costs, so paying off-roster prices for a one time purchase of competition firearms most likely is not an issue.

                              1911s are NOT allowed in Production division so your comment in regards to those do not apply.
                              What??

                              1911s not allowed?? Is this some sort of competition for young boys and beginners?

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