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  • #16
    PatriotnMore
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 7068

    Originally posted by JTROKS
    I owned a Beretta 92 that was very slick. Try what Nic said, the push and pull technique while racking. Also another way to lighten the racking chore is to cock the hammer and load one or two less rounds in the mag.
    Tried it, and rear pull, both were very difficult for her, on my XD.
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    • #17
      SCMA-1
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 4282

      Originally posted by PatriotnMore
      Tried it, and rear pull, both were very difficult for her, on my XD.
      Maybe you need to get her one of these, yeah?

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      • #18
        Jicko
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        • Dec 2005
        • 8774

        hmmmm techique....

        1) try this with some gloves on first, plus snap caps

        2) hold the rear of the slide with her reaction hand (weak) at chest height, thumb pointing at her chest

        3) push out/punch out with her action hand (strong)

        4) the slide should be able to rack, and the gun would slide off her weak hand and went forward
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        • #19
          PatriotnMore
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          • Nov 2007
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          Originally posted by SCMA-1
          Maybe you need to get her one of these, yeah?

          http://www.ptdirectonline.com/Produc...er&oid1=&oid2=
          The problem is not hands, she has had double breast mastectomy, and has reduced upper body strength, she is also recoil sensitive. I am trying to find a happy ending here, but thanks.
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          • #20
            nick
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            • Aug 2008
            • 19143

            Originally posted by PatriotnMore
            I've finally got the wife interested in shooting. Were going to go out soon and see what fits her hand.

            The issue that may be the biggest hurtle on a semi auto 9mm, is going to be racking it. She really struggles with my 5" XD.

            If I remember, I think the Beretta had the smoothest slide to rack, any thoughts on which model has the easiest slide to rack?

            Women, are most welcome to chime in.
            You might want to look into how she does it. My girlfriend thought the slide of the G35 she used was too tight, until we looked into how she racks it, and it turned out to be quite inefficient. We then worked out several techniques which would allow her to work it easier, and for some reason, after a couple of weeks of using those techniques she could rack the slide her old way just fine, as well.
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            • #21
              PatriotnMore
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              • Nov 2007
              • 7068

              Originally posted by Jicko
              hmmmm techique....

              1) try this with some gloves on first, plus snap caps

              2) hold the rear of the slide with her reaction hand (weak) at chest height, thumb pointing at her chest

              3) push out/punch out with her action hand (strong)

              4) the slide should be able to rack, and the gun would slide off her weak hand and went forward
              I do have gloves for her, will give that a go. Still there are some other good weapon choices being suggested, we are going to try as many as we can, thanks .
              ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
              --James Madison
              'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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              • #22
                JTROKS
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                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

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                • #23
                  Hispeed1
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 271

                  Not trying to be a stick in da mud, but I believe that training/helping her with it shooting will be more important than racking the slide of the pistol...

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                  • #24
                    Jicko
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 8774

                    Originally posted by Hispeed1
                    Not trying to be a stick in da mud, but I believe that training/helping her with it shooting will be more important than racking the slide of the pistol...
                    hmmmm not able to rack the slide = no shooting....
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                    • #25
                      PatriotnMore
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      Originally posted by Hispeed1
                      Not trying to be a stick in da mud, but I believe that training/helping her with it shooting will be more important than racking the slide of the pistol...
                      Well, she has to pass the safe handling, so even if she could put every round through the same hole, not being able to rack the slide, would fail the test, and negate a purchase in her name, which is the point.
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                      • #26
                        SCMA-1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4282

                        Originally posted by PatriotnMore
                        The problem is not hands, she has had double breast mastectomy, and has reduced upper body strength, she is also recoil sensitive. I am trying to find a happy ending here, but thanks.
                        ahh.........sorry while I pull my foot out of my mouth. I understand now. I've replaced glock springs in the past with lighter recoil springs which had the effect of lower force required to rack the slide; probably a good idea to use a recoil buffer if this is done to cushion the frame.

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                        Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                        Wherever I Am,
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                        Whenever I Return Home,
                        Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
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                        • #27
                          PatriotnMore
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                          • Nov 2007
                          • 7068

                          Originally posted by SCMA-1
                          ahh.........sorry while I pull my foot out of my mouth. I understand now. I've replaced glock springs in the past with lighter recoil springs which had the effect of lower force required to rack the slide; probably a good idea to use a recoil buffer if this is done to cushion the frame.

                          SCMA-1
                          How could you know? No need to apologize.
                          ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
                          --James Madison
                          'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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                          • #28
                            SCMA-1
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4282

                            Another idea would be to take her to a well stocked shooting range with lots of rentals and let her try to rack different ones in the case.

                            I would recommend Insight Shooting Range in Artesia (605 & 91 fwys); they have a huge assortment of rental guns (at least a few years ago when my buddy was the owner) and I don't think they'd really mind if you explained what you were doing. The new management seems to be pretty laid back also!




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                            Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                            Wherever I Am,
                            Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                            Whenever I Return Home,
                            Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
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                            • #29
                              wolf13
                              Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 482

                              My girl friend is small, and can rack the p239 easily. Also fits her hand beautifully.
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                              • #30
                                H2H
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1644

                                glock are pretty easy.

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