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  • Chewy65
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 5041

    Magazine Disconnected jammed gun up tight

    My Sig p229 failed at the range. That "safety device" magazine disconnect somehow kept me from inserting a magazine the day after I was at the range. While there it did some weird things that it never does. There was a failure to extract and a couple of times when I pulled the trigger it went to the rear but the hammer stayed cocked. All shooting was SA.

    I figured out the next day when dry firing it that the disconnector was not disconnecting. I could shoot in DA and SA. I also figured out that if I pulled the trigger in DA then I could load a magazine. I can't tell for sure without having another one to compare, but the connector may have been worn a little. Anyway, I popped that stupid thing out before you can say "lock her up".

    Now I suppose I will have to get a new connector just to have in case for some stupid reason I have to make it California Compliant.
  • #2
    splithoof
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2015
    • 5473

    Yet another reason to despise such unnecessary devices. It can turn a fighting pistol into a short and inefficient club.
    Hopefully your weapon will function properly without it. Another reason I like 1911's, Glocks, and of course revolvers.
    Thank you for sharing the issue.

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    • #3
      code_blue
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 3452

      Sig MDC failure is common and reported frequently. Our 2-rental P226's have been sent back for numerous failures attributed to the MDC and once for gummed up LCI.
      Classifieds:

      Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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      • #4
        Calico1404
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 3401

        Removed before I even put my 226 in the safe the day I got it.

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        • #5
          Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2015
          • 6504

          Originally posted by Calico1404
          Removed before I even put my 226 in the safe the day I got it.
          Wut about your mk25?

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          • #6
            I Swan
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 8770

            Originally posted by splithoof
            Yet another reason to despise such unnecessary devices. It can turn a fighting pistol into a short and inefficient club.
            Hopefully your weapon will function properly without it. Another reason I like 1911's, Glocks, and of course revolvers.
            Thank you for sharing the issue.
            Guns like many older S&W autos and the Browning High Power have good reps and have a magazine disconnect. Might be a problem unique to those type Sig Sauers.

            I also own other guns that have them and never any problem with them.

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            • #7
              jcwatchdog
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 2588

              Originally posted by I Swan
              Guns like many older S&W autos and the Browning High Power have good reps and have a magazine disconnect. Might be a problem unique to those type Sig Sauers.

              I also own other guns that have them and never any problem with them.


              I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like guns like the older s&w semiautomatics and the hi powers were designed with the magazine disconnect, and while maybe the trigger suffers a little, they don't fail very often.

              But with Sig, these weren't originally designed with mag disconnects and were added after the fact for CA guns. And this is what maybe is causing the issue. When you try to stuff something in a gun that shouldn't have been there, problems may happen more frequently.

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              • #8
                I Swan
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 8770

                Originally posted by jcwatchdog
                I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like guns like the older s&w semiautomatics and the hi powers were designed with the magazine disconnect, and while maybe the trigger suffers a little, they don't fail very often.

                But with Sig, these weren't originally designed with mag disconnects and were added after the fact for CA guns. And this is what maybe is causing the issue. When you try to stuff something in a gun that shouldn't have been there, problems may happen more frequently.
                Yes those older guns were designed from the get go with the magazine disconnect so that is a good point.

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                • #9
                  boopiejones
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 2044

                  Originally posted by I Swan
                  Guns like many older S&W autos and the Browning High Power have good reps and have a magazine disconnect. Might be a problem unique to those type Sig Sauers.

                  I also own other guns that have them and never any problem with them.
                  The mag disco on the high power causes the trigger pull to be stiffer and doesn't allow the mags to drop free.

                  Removing the mag disco is always the first thing I do to any gun.
                  my Benitez goes to 11

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                  • #10
                    I Swan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 8770

                    Originally posted by boopiejones
                    The mag disco on the high power causes the trigger pull to be stiffer and doesn't allow the mags to drop free.

                    Removing the mag disco is always the first thing I do to any gun.
                    Yes this is well known but does not cause failures for gun to fire. I personally don't delete safety features from guns. I just use another type gun that doesn't have them if I don't want that feature.

                    I personally probably wouldn't own a Sig Sauer with such a feature.

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                    • #11
                      MarkInFolsom
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 392

                      Originally posted by boopiejones
                      doesn't allow the mags to drop free.
                      Huh? Mine drop free just fine with the mag disconnect intact.

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                      • #12
                        SkyHawk
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 23494

                        Originally posted by MarkInFolsom
                        Huh? Mine drop free just fine with the mag disconnect intact.
                        Sure, if the mags have the eject springs in place. And that technically isn't 'drop free' - more like 'forced out'.

                        You know you have a problem when you have to supply eject springs with your factory mags.

                        Last edited by SkyHawk; 11-13-2017, 11:13 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Skip_Dog
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 2656

                          Yes it is the bs Ca legislators. Sucks making manufacturers comply with non life saving measures that some idiot behind a desk on the democratic dole thinks up.

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                          • #14
                            mjmagee67
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2771

                            This is all part of California's plan...they don't care if your gun works. They are just evening the odds for criminals and supporting their party's base.
                            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                            • #15
                              Chewy65
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 5041

                              Originally posted by MarkInFolsom
                              Huh? Mine drop free just fine with the mag disconnect intact.
                              Mine was the same for 2K rounds and then it failed. Since it was only at the range it wasn't as big a deal, but were it an emergency situation I may well not be now asking about the problem. As it is, I was thinking about getting another Sig. Now I am not.

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