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  • aceman2224
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 335

    Colt 1991A1

    At my local pawn shop I saw a Colt 1991A1 for sale. Firm price $1300. Low Round count. Slide is tight with very little wobble. Taking the gun down, there seems to be little wear except on the barrel where it says Colt 45 ACP. Outside finish looks to be parkerized , not blue, and looks very nice other than one 'idiot mark'. I've been told bu the shop owner that he is familiar with this gun and has fired it himself and vouches for it. Is this a decent deal? Any concerns I should look for?



    Last edited by aceman2224; 10-21-2017, 9:52 AM.
  • #2
    simonp
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1989

    "If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

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    • #3
      jon94520
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 762

      If that is what you feel comfortable paying than it's a good deal for you. Depends on how bad you really want it. Considering you have to pay tax on top of that I personally would pass but I already own a 1991 so I'm not really looking for one.
      By the looks of the roll mark it is probably made between 91-00. I believe that's when they changed to the new roll mark which is more desirable.
      In the end though what's a few extra hundred dollars down the road.
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      • #4
        aceman2224
        Member
        • May 2014
        • 335

        This is a PPT and no tax is charged. I am unclear on the rollmark your referring.

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        • #5
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          Price seems high to me for a very basic Colt 1911, even for California. Especially since the MSRP for a brand new one is $799 in free states. I would rather spend less money on a new on-roster Springfield Armory 1911, or a little more on this on-roster 1911 https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/95401


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          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23525

            Originally posted by aceman2224
            This is a PPT and no tax is charged. I am unclear on the rollmark your referring.
            The rollmark he is referring to is the ginormous billboard on the left side slide that says COLT M1991A1. Not many people appreciate that, especially on a Colt.

            It may be DROSd as a PPT, but if it is on display at the store then it is a consignment, and tax will be charged. Maybe the pawn shop will eat the tax, maybe it is rolled into the price, or maybe they just play loose with tax laws.

            But if it is displayed, then it is taxable.

            These were on roster up until a few years ago, they were $800ish. Personally I'd hold out for a rail gun or a XSE or something nicer than a basic A1 model, if the price was $1300. Unless an A1 really floats your boat, in which case the price doesn't matter so much. But for that kind of $$ you might find an older MkIV Series 80 1911 which IMO is more desireable than a 1991.

            For this gun in CA, $900 would be a deal and $1050ish maybe the upper end.
            Last edited by SkyHawk; 10-21-2017, 11:15 AM.
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            • #7
              aceman2224
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 335

              Originally posted by SkyHawk
              The rollmark he is referring to is the ginormous billboard on the left side slide that says COLT 1191A1. Not many people appreciate that, especially on a Colt.

              It may be DROSd as a PPT, but if it is on display at the store then it is a consignment, and tax will be charged. Maybe the pawn shop will eat the tax, maybe it is rolled into the price, or maybe they just play loose with tax laws.

              But if it is displayed, then it is taxable.

              These were on roster up until a few years ago, they were $800ish. Personally I'd hold out for a rail gun or a XSE or something nicer than a basic A1 model, if the price was $1300. Unless an A1 really floats your boat, in which case the price doesn't matter so much. But for that kind of $$ you might find an older MkIV series 80 1911 which IMO is more desireable than a 1991.
              I hear you. $1300 was out the door price so all fees must be included. I do enjoy mil spec to be honest but not to say I wouldnt like any other model ie. mkIV or XSC. However isnt it all about availability here in Cali? I am a newer gun collector/buyer since 2014. I didnt have the luxuries of getting now off roster Colts. Colt pistols and revolvers do command a much higher price now than ever and everyone knows that. So when they drop I feel you have to move on it or else someone else will.

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23525

                $1300 out the door wouldn't be too terrible, after all it is a Colt. No one ever got fired for buying Colt
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                • #9
                  simonp
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1989

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk
                  $1300 out the door wouldn't be too terrible, after all it is a Colt. No one ever got fired for buying Colt
                  "If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

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                  • #10
                    Milsurp Collector
                    Calguns Addict
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5884

                    Here's one for sale by a private party in Long Beach http://www.gunbroker.com/item/709111424


                    .
                    Revolvers are not pistols

                    pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                    ExitCalifornia.org

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                    • #11
                      SkyHawk
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 23525

                      Check this one out, San Diego, will probably be gone by end of day
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                      • #12
                        Stanze
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3301

                        I have a Colt XSE bought before it fell off CA roster and it's excellent.

                        However, I'd rather put a $1300 down payment on a brand new Les Baer.

                        Colt in OP is nice -- I wouldn't pay the asking price personally; for that price you can get close to a really nice brand new 1911.
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                        • #13
                          Black Majik
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 9695

                          Yikes, those matte blued/ parked Colt 1991A1s are around $550 - $600 in the free states.

                          I don't think $1300 is a fair price at all... even with the Colt "mark up."

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                          • #14
                            simonp
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1989

                            Originally posted by Stanze
                            I have a Colt XSE bought before it fell off CA roster and it's excellent.

                            However, I'd rather put a $1300 down payment on a brand new Les Baer.

                            Colt in OP is nice -- I wouldn't pay the asking price personally; for that price you can get close to a really nice brand new 1911.
                            "If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

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                            • #15
                              simonp
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1989

                              Originally posted by Black Majik
                              Yikes, those matte blued/ parked Colt 1991A1s are around $550 - $600 in the free states.



                              I don't think $1300 is a fair price at all... even with the Colt "mark up."
                              "If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow"

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