Glock 23 erratic ejection

[Michael777]

I bought a used glock 23 a while back and finally took it to the range today. My first 40 caliber. Definitely a higher pressure round compared to shooting 9mm or 45 acp. I had to hold on a bit tighter compared to my sig 226 9mm. Polymer vs metal gun I'm sure also contributed to perceived recoil difference.

Anyways, I made this thread to complain about the ejection pattern from the glock 23. The shells kept hitting me in the head and neck. Kind of annoying. Is this normal?

Does it mean a part is worn out?

Would I sacrifice reliability by getting an aftmarket ejector?

I was shooting 180 grain German ammo geco brand.

[fmunk]

To me the G23 is softer shooting than a M&P 1.0 full size. No offense, but seems like you're just not used to it. Yah it's got more recoil impulse than a 9mm, but it's definitely as dramatic as you make it to be. I find it softer compared to a 45acp chambered 1911. As for the ejection pattern, it can happen. But, are you limp wristing? Apart from user causes... Disassemble and check condition of extractor and the ejector. Make sure it has the correct ejector. It should be fairly straight. IIRC, the 9mm version has a slight kink.

[Michael777]

No. Definitely not used to 40 at all. It wasn't unpleasant or anything crazy like the 44 magnum desert eagle I used to own. I quite liked the recoil impulse, but compared to 9 I shot right after it definitely felt like a more powerful round.

Everything looks great inside. And correct the extractor on my glock 26 is curved. The 23 is straight. It might be I'm using hot ammo. I'm assuming German and higher grain might mean hotter loads which is causing the shells to bounce me in the head.

[mjmagee67]

Both 9mm and 40 SW have the same 35,000 psi max pressure per SAAMI. So there is no pressure difference.

As far as the ejection , poor ammo and poor grip can cause inconsistent ejection. As well as a dirty extractor. If the gun runs then just shoot it. Pay more attention to the front sight and target and not the brass. I have over 10,000 rounds out of my Tanfoglio I use in USPSA Production and the other day one of my shooting partners said "you know your gun throws the brass forward?" I've never noticed. The gun has always run like a Singer, an Italian Singer.

[fmunk]

It's a heavier bullet. Third law of physics. For every action there is a equal and opposite reaction. That's what you're feeling.

You could try replacing the recoil spring with a new one too. They are inexpensive. Who knows, maybe the one you have is tired. Factory spring rate on the G23 is the same as the 9mm G19. IIRC, 18 lbs. Assuming we're talking about Gen 3.

[becxltoo984]

Maybe a worn recoil spring Ive notice they dont seem to last as long
in 40 caliber . but they are cheap to replace.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GLOCK-OEM-Factory-Guide-Rod-Recoil-Spring-Assembly-Gen-3-Glock-19-23-32-SP02457-/322451672881?epid=1000693416&hash=item4b139e0f31:g:TvQAAOSwjqVZAiR9

[Michael777]

Maybe a worn recoil spring Ive notice they dont seem to last as long
in 40 caliber . but they are cheap to replace.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GLOCK-OEM-Fa...QAAOSwjqVZAiR9

Yes. That might be it. It came w trijicon night sight so I'm assuming it's a police trade in?

[808@515]

Yes. That might be it. It came w trijicon night sight so I'm assuming it's a police trade in?

Interesting. I have a PD trade in G23 and haven't experienced that. I had a gen 4 G 19 and though it never happened to me the new owner remarked that it happens to him.

[9mmepiphany]

Does it mean a part is worn out?

Would I sacrifice reliability by getting an aftmarket ejector?

It isn't that a part is worn, you're just experiencing the famous Glock BTF (Brass To Face)

It isn't so much an issue with the ejector as it is the extractor. You can play around be switching factory ejectors and extractors and you might get lucky and stop the BTF.

The issue is a lack of extractor grip on the case rim. The case isn't controlled, once it clears the chamber, and is being bounced back toward you by the front of the ejection port

[Matt P]

My opinion is the handgun is twisting in his hand under recoil. He is not gripping tight enough with his support hand. Think of the direction the handgun takes when shooting strong hand only. It twists slightly as it moves upward.
He is not used to 40. It is a considerable difference in felt recoil.

Grip tighter with your support. I suggest a crushing grip to gain control.

The likihood of it being any other issue than you and your technique is slim.

[naeco81]

I also think this is a problem with grip/limp wrist.

[krb]

I also think this is a problem with grip/limp wrist.

So I'm not the only one with erratic ejection because of a limp wrist?

[SkyHawk]

New recoil spring and also make sure it has the correct ejector in the trigger housing. Maybe someone played legos with it at some point and put in a 9mm ejector / housing to go with a conversion barrel. Also if it is very old, it may not have the latest model of ejector.

[lakersfan]

Ejector should be straight on the 40/357. A small bend is a 9mm.