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  • #16
    ElvenSoul
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    • Apr 2008
    • 17431

    Originally posted by Matt P
    That seems like quite a statement.
    Huge like changing sights or trigger?

    I under cut both my frames. About as aggressively as you can without going into the mag catch area and would not suggest a huge difference.
    Different hand sizes, digit size and techniques in just gripping will affect how one experiences one grip to another.

    In both my classes I was the only guy out of like 30 other students even messing with it.
    If it's expensive I suggest not doing it and spend that money on proven performance mods.

    Just my opinion
    Newer Colt XSE has something like that cut stock.
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    • #17
      ElvenSoul
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      • Apr 2008
      • 17431

      Check for plastic and Tin MIM parts and change those out first
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      • #18
        MosinVirus
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        • Sep 2013
        • 5282

        Originally posted by Matt P
        Most firearm owners simply do not understand the importance of gripping as high to the bore axis as they can.
        My sample list is students on the range. The only guys who tend to grip properly are guys with some competition background or who have attended other classes. I rarely see this student.
        I would expect if you point it out they notice. But I suggest few who have it done make use of it when they actually shoot.
        It has just become the in thing to do.
        I believe it does not make a huge difference and there are other areas which could use that attention in labor and money over removing a little metal.

        I built off (2) Caspian and a PM Machine frames. I did this work over 4 years ago.
        Well I am surprised you don't notice a difference.
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        • #19
          Matt P
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          • Jun 2006
          • 3101

          I never stated I do not experience a difference.
          It's just not huge.
          I did it despite no one else doing it in the class because I could as I was doing all the work.
          But I would not have it done on a build.

          Huge difference? Put a mini holo on a handgun. Get some aggressive grips. Address the controls and make them more user friendly. Insure the trigger shoe fits your finger length. Sights.
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          • #20
            XDJYo
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            • Apr 2012
            • 7002

            IMHO, it's one of those things that may not jump right out at you like sights or new grips. In my particular case, I knew there was something subtle. When I finally figured it out, it was quite a revelation. 'That's why it feels better!'

            If someone is getting their front strap checkered, you might as well undercut the trigger guard. It's a 'since you're already under the hood, you might as well...'

            I don't think the point is that an undercut trigger guard is more important than some of the things you mention (trigger, grips, sights etc), but it is being addressed apart from those items.
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            • #21
              ElvenSoul
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              • Apr 2008
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              Tali Wiley Clapp comes with all the cuts and checkering
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              • #22
                MosinVirus
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                • Sep 2013
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                Originally posted by Matt P
                I never stated I do not experience a difference.
                It's just not huge.
                I did it despite no one else doing it in the class because I could as I was doing all the work.
                But I would not have it done on a build.

                Huge difference? Put a mini holo on a handgun. Get some aggressive grips. Address the controls and make them more user friendly. Insure the trigger shoe fits your finger length. Sights.
                I see. Well, I guess this is one of those cases where to each their own applies. Your list looks good to me as things that can be swapped out. But, just like checkering a proper undercut makes a huge difference at the base level.

                Edit: For me, that is.
                Last edited by MosinVirus; 09-11-2017, 8:06 PM.
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                • #23
                  _TomT_
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                  • Jun 2013
                  • 3354

                  Question, does Will O'Hara do trigger undercut and hard chrome refinishing?

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                  • #24
                    Hank15
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 995

                    Originally posted by _TomT_
                    Question, does Will O'Hara do trigger undercut and hard chrome refinishing?
                    Yes. Undercut comes with the front strap checkering service, hence about $400.

                    I've seen him do part of the work, I wouldn't attempt it for $500.

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                    • #25
                      _TomT_
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                      • Jun 2013
                      • 3354

                      Originally posted by Hank15
                      Yes. Undercut comes with the front strap checkering service, hence about $400.

                      I've seen him do part of the work, I wouldn't attempt it for $500.
                      Hmm I already have front strap checkering...

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                      • #26
                        geedavell
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1820

                        That thing looks Bad ***!
                        Last edited by geedavell; 07-20-2021, 5:39 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Hank15
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                          • Nov 2011
                          • 995

                          Originally posted by _TomT_
                          Hmm I already have front strap checkering...
                          What I mean is that it's very tedious work and I wouldn't even try it if someone paid me $500.

                          @OP, you are welcome to try 30 LPI and 25 LPI if you can come out to Raahauges.

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                          • #28
                            MosinVirus
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                            • Sep 2013
                            • 5282

                            Originally posted by geedavell
                            That thing looks Bad ***!
                            The Exfoliator? Yes. It is pretty sweet. I cut the checkering with 90 degree as oppose to 60, so it wouldn't be as deep and not go through all the way. And that is also the reason why it looks scarier than it is. The grip stocks are more pointy than the checkering. They are more aggressive.

                            But so far everyone that tried it liked it.

                            By the way, standard 25lpi hand checkering and undercut I got down to 4 hours (with smoke breaks).

                            That is also my parkerizing on it. It is so freaking simple to do, I couldn't believe it.
                            Last edited by MosinVirus; 09-11-2017, 8:17 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Firefight
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 569

                              Originally posted by Hank15
                              Will O'Hara in Corona. I think close to $400, PM for info.
                              That's where I went. No regrets

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