Steyr SPP 9mm

[ap3572001]

Is Steyr SPP Califirnia legal under current laws?

[osis32]

with pistols legality has nothing to do with it. it's whether or not it's in the roster. check the roster but odds are it's not on there and you have to find one local to ppt

[osis32]

let me correct myself. unless the magazine well is not in the grip then it's a legality issue.

[beanz2]

The mag is in the grip, but there is that 2nd handgrip and barrel shroud question for CA.

How's the trigger? I've been really spoiled by nice handgun triggers, it's hard to accept the awful triggers on most of these PDW's. Unless there is a strong following, unlikely someone will make sweet triggers like in the Scorpion or the MPX. Been drawn to the B&T APC9 and the APC223, but the bad trigger issue repulsed me each time.

[CALI-gula]

Is Steyr SPP Califirnia legal under current laws?

Yes.

Completely legal to buy by PPT in CA (i.e., not on the Roster, obviously). The forward tang or hook is not called a "grip" or "forward grip" or "handguard" anywhere in the manual, and BATF/CA DOJ does not consider it to be as such either.

Likewise, the guard around the muzzle is not considered a flash-hider, nor is the threading around the forward guard considered a threaded barrel.

The mags are loaded through the grip, like any other Glock, XD, M&P, USP, SIG, 1911, Luger, whatever.

And with that in mind, it's just a big, oversized Glock. It's a giant brick of a polymer gun that feels cheap, and offers no better accuracy or practicality over a Glock 19, all at triple the cost. You'll have trouble finding 10-round mags for it, and cost will surpass $1,200 easy. Like new in the box may be double that amount.

As a sub-machine gun it's a totally different creature and consideration, and would make sense. But in semi-auto, it's a pointless pursuit.

Unless buying it for the gee-whiz factor for looks, posing for Facebook selfies, making a movie about Russian gangs in the 1990s with Bruce Willis, or you get a sweet deal on one for under $700... buy a Glock instead.


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[SamIAm]

I owned one in the 90s. I sold it pretty after a few years. It wasn't anything special to shoot. It really was just as CALI-gula described, a big oversized Glock.

[Quiet]

Yes.

Completely legal to buy by PPT in CA (i.e., not on the Roster, obviously). The forward tang or hook is not called a "grip" or "forward grip" or "handguard" anywhere in the manual, and BATF/CA DOJ does not consider it to be as such either.

Likewise, the guard around the muzzle is not considered a flash-hider, nor is the threading around the forward guard considered a threaded barrel.

However, some early Steyr SPP were imported/sold with threaded barrels and not the elongated muzzle cap/guard. Those threaded barrel versions would not be CA legal.
In addition, the B&T TP9 (product improved Styer SPP) were imported/sold with a lugged barrel (which is now classified as a threaded barrel). Those also would not be CA legal.

[ap3572001]

However, some early Steyr SPP were imported/sold with threaded barrels and not the elongated muzzle cap/guard. Those threaded barrel versions would not be CA legal.
In addition, the B&T TP9 (product improved Styer SPP) were imported/sold with a lugged barrel (which is now classified as a threaded barrel). Those also would not be CA legal.

California version of TP9 has prongs removed. I believd they totally California legal.

[Mikemass]

I owned one in the 90s. I sold it pretty after a few years.

I had one in the 90s too, worst gun I've ever owned. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough!