Replaced your M&P Shield .45 or 9mm Performance Center factory sear?

[Jnbr19867]

For those of you who have replaced their M&P Shield .45 or 9mm Performance Center factory sear with an Apex sear...and are willing to part with/sell the factory sear, would you private message me as i'm looking to get one to test run on my shield 9 (for CCW). I've confirmed the .45 PC sear from the 1.0 models does fit the 9mm as a drop in replacement.


Right now i'm not considering the Apex sear or polishing any of the trigger parts.

Thanks.

[dfletcher]

For those of you who have replaced their M&P Pro series or Performance Center factory sears with an Apex sear...and are willing to part with the factory sear, i would appreciate if you'd private message me as i'm looking to get one to test run on my shield 9.

Right now i'm not considering the Apex sear.

Thanks.

I did the switch on my M & P (sorry, keeping the sear) and also did two Shields over the weekend. One had the Apex trigger, sear and striker block kit installed and on the other I just cleaned up a bit, no sear change. On each I fiddled with the "candy cane" to get an earlier trigger break.

FWIW, the APEX sear makes a difference. The angles are different resulting in an easier and more even break than the stock sear. But, the stock sear and engagement surface of the striker engagement can be polished (Wet 'n Dry extra fine grit) and the striker block plunger too. I'm sure this is considered sacrilige, but the combination of polishing the factory striker block, (especially the "head" that protrudes from the underside of the slide) clipping (OMIGOD!!) a coil or two off the striker plunger spring and polishing the "point" of the trigger bar that lifts the striker block plunger gives very good results. Using the "Competition" trigger return spring helps alot too. I understand folks may not want to use the competition spring on a defense gun, but the lighter trigger return spring is more than enough. If the block is set up for it using the RAM provides an extra measure of return for the trigger bar to move under the sear.

All in all, just cleaning up and using no aftermarket parts shows a significant improvement. Using the Apex trigger, striker kit and sear improves on that, but not as much as cleaning up does from factory original. If I had an eye on economy I'd clean up, but also get the Apex sear.

BTW, I'm not a plastic gun guy and much more comfortable with old Colts and Smith revolvers, 1911s. But I like fiddling with guns and the M & P is easy, fun to work on. That I can buy additional barrels, longer slide makes it more so.

[Jnbr19867]

I did the switch on my M & P (sorry, keeping the sear) and also did two Shields over the weekend. One had the Apex trigger, sear and striker block kit installed and on the other I just cleaned up a bit, no sear change. On each I fiddled with the "candy cane" to get an earlier trigger break.

FWIW, the APEX sear makes a difference. The angles are different resulting in an easier and more even break than the stock sear. But, the stock sear and engagement surface of the striker engagement can be polished (Wet 'n Dry extra fine grit) and the striker block plunger too. I'm sure this is considered sacrilige, but the combination of polishing the factory striker block, (especially the "head" that protrudes from the underside of the slide) clipping (OMIGOD!!) a coil or two off the striker plunger spring and polishing the "point" of the trigger bar that lifts the striker block plunger gives very good results. Using the "Competition" trigger return spring helps alot too. I understand folks may not want to use the competition spring on a defense gun, but the lighter trigger return spring is more than enough. If the block is set up for it using the RAM provides an extra measure of return for the trigger bar to move under the sear.

All in all, just cleaning up and using no aftermarket parts shows a significant improvement. Using the Apex trigger, striker kit and sear improves on that, but not as much as cleaning up does from factory original. If I had an eye on economy I'd clean up, but also get the Apex sear.

BTW, I'm not a plastic gun guy and much more comfortable with old Colts and Smith revolvers, 1911s. But I like fiddling with guns and the M & P is easy, fun to work on. That I can buy additional barrels, longer slide makes it more so.

My Shield 9 will be my CCW gun so any substantial polishing of any trigger or sear parts is kind of out of the question for me, also because ive been told by s&w customer service that polishing any of the factory trigger system would void the warranty and i want to keep it.

The reason i want to try out a Pro or Performance Center sear is because the Apex sear (if i were to install it) would most likely drop my trigger pull from 6 lbs 5 oz (now), to an even 5 lbs or sub 5 lbs and i would like to stay above 5 lbs for for my CCW. I've read that the Pro series or Performance series sear is a bit more "enhanced" than the base line counterparts, and not as "aggressive" as the Apex sear (they advertise it'll most likely drop the pull by 1.5 lbs), so i wanted to try one of Pro or Performance Series sears on my Shield to see if i could get a somewhat "conservative" drop in trigger pull.