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  • #31
    sirgrumps
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2492

    Originally posted by HibikiR
    Semi-autos are in more danger from Excremento than revolvers, so in the spirit of "Get Both" go with the Five-seven and get the magnum later down the line.
    This^^^^^^^^^^

    However, you do have to ask yourself a few questions?
    Are you planning to ever move to a free state?
    Are you planning or do you reload?
    How much range time have you or will you dedicate to learn how to work a double action trigger?
    Are you leave the revolver factory or get it tuned?
    Are gonna leave them stock or get them accessoried?


    But be prepared for very expensive ammo. Especially with the up coming ammo permit.


    There is another thing to consider, if you
    Reload or planning to reload, the components to make .38/.357 are cheap, plentiful, and almost always available.
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    • #32
      bmk20398
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 1047

      5.7 is very hard to reload, but Lyman gives information
      Hornady 40gr V-Max + 7.0 No.7 = 1764fps with Five-Seven
      not so impressive. 460SW can go 2000fps.
      357 125+H110 22=1506fps (Lyman, 4 inch) is good enough for 100 yard shooting.

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      • #33
        Mr. Helio
        Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 221

        My vote is for the smith.

        They are built like a tank! Have the ability to shoot .38, .38 special , and .357.
        I'd look for a nice pre lock and ppt. It'll hold its value down the line.
        And is a hoot to shoot!

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        • #34
          gryffinwings
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 377

          Originally posted by sirgrumps
          This^^^^^^^^^^

          However, you do have to ask yourself a few questions?
          Are you planning to ever move to a free state?
          Are you planning or do you reload?
          How much range time have you or will you dedicate to learn how to work a double action trigger?
          Are you leave the revolver factory or get it tuned?
          Are gonna leave them stock or get them accessoried?


          But be prepared for very expensive ammo. Especially with the up coming ammo permit.


          There is another thing to consider, if you
          Reload or planning to reload, the components to make .38/.357 are cheap, plentiful, and almost always available.
          I do plan on moving to a free state one day, I'm in the military at the moment, so I'm here. I like the idea of one day have 30 round magazines.

          Thoughts:
          1. I think I will get the FN Five Seven first, mainly because it's going to be a bit harder to find, and you never know about gun laws here. Most stores I'm hearing are getting like 2-3 a year for whatever reason here in the San Diego area.
          2. I can always get a Smith & Wesson Revolver, so I think I will get that second, easier to save for and much easier to obtain.
          3. I think I will agree with what some have said, get both.

          I don't really plan on reloading at the moment, maybe I will change my mind later. The revolver I get in the future, I don't have any plans to tune, but I keep my options open.

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          • #35
            Milsurp Collector
            Calguns Addict
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2009
            • 5884

            Originally posted by gryffinwings
            Ok, so I plan on making a gun purchase in the near future, probably within the month, to add to my collection of guns. I have the following.

            CZ-75 SP-01 (9mm)
            Yugoslavian Mauser (7.92 x 54)
            AR15
            If I were to own only 4 guns, an FN Five-seveN would definitely not be one of the 4.

            If I were to own only 10 guns, an FN Five-seveN would definitely not be one of the 10.

            If I were to own only 20 guns, an FN Five-seveN would definitely not be one of the 20.

            Besides a .357 magnum revolver which as I said is a no brainer, some other guns you should think about acquiring before even thinking about an FN Five-seveN are:
            • a .22 handgun. Or two. Or three. (semiauto and/or revolver)
            • a .22 rifle. Or two. Or three. (semiauto and/or bolt-action and/or lever-action)
            • a 12 gauge shotgun or two (pump and/or semiauto and/or break-action)
            • a 1911-type in .45ACP first, 9mm second
            • a lever-action .30-30 carbine
            • an M1 (Garand) Rifle
            • a Glock
            • a single-action revolver
            I think I will get the FN Five Seven first, mainly because it's going to be a bit harder to find, and you never know about gun laws here.
            Your poll, which you put up, is currently 76% in favor of the .357 revolver. Why run a poll if you're going to ignore the results?

            That an overpriced, not very useful gun might be hard to find should be considered a blessing, not a reason to buy it.

            This expensive gun is hard to find too, and that's a good thing, not a reason to buy it.

            Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 08-21-2017, 9:25 PM.
            Revolvers are not pistols

            pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
            Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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            • #36
              jarhead714
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2012
              • 7532

              I don't even think it's legal to purchase the "good" 5.7mm ammunition. Is it?

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              • #37
                tsnoforn
                Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 216

                I have shot the 57 and it is neat.... but it's not a .357 Magnum neat. I am going for the sweet Magnum every time. The 57 is a great concept but its just not for me. The magnum can do more stuff, is more practical and is more fun IMHO.


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                • #38
                  Milsurp Collector
                  Calguns Addict
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 5884

                  "I hate to say it, but the FN Five-seveN is a hipster's wet dream."

                  - Colion Noir

                  Revolvers are not pistols

                  pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                  Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                  ExitCalifornia.org

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                  • #39
                    the_tunaman
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2274

                    5.7 is in my future and will be the next pistol that I buy. I've shot one, and it is an awesome precision weapon albeit lacking a bit of take-down punch.

                    I wouldn't classify or consider it for self defense.

                    All that being said, I already have a Dan Wesson 44 and 357. Either of those definitely do fit the bill as self defense, and are great range toys.
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                    • #40
                      trigger945
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 5795

                      OP seems to know what he really wants. Just probably needs a little push and validation. Here it is: Go get the FN FiveseveN
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                      • #41
                        NYT
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3811

                        Originally posted by Johneracer
                        So if you want a gun that a little girl can shoot get a 5.7mm. If you want a gun that a man shoots get a .357 magnum revolver. Did I get that right?
                        i would hedge on the side of a gun an entire family can train with rather than a gun only the "men" can use. if you truly think a 357 revolver is a better home defense handgun we agree to disagree.

                        i would choose 5.7/9mm semi auto over a 357 wheel gun any day of the week and twice on sunday for my family.

                        Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
                        "I hate to say it, but the FN Five-seveN is a hipster's wet dream."

                        - Colion Noir
                        lol, colion owns several salient arms handguns. nuff said on the hipster angle?

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                        • #42
                          Full Clip
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 10260

                          Originally posted by NYT
                          i would hedge on the side of a gun an entire family can train with rather than a gun only the "men" can use. if you truly think a 357 revolver is a better home defense handgun we agree to disagree.
                          Then load it with .38s. Problem solved.

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                          • #43
                            NYT
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3811

                            Originally posted by Full Clip
                            Then load it with .38s. Problem solved.
                            im not a fan of 38 or wheel guns, i dont reload like jerry miculek.

                            im not a fan of 38 for several reasons but one is that i read a study awhile back that found more people survive getting shot by a 38 than a 22.

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                            • #44
                              Milsurp Collector
                              Calguns Addict
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 5884

                              Originally posted by NYT
                              i would hedge on the side of a gun an entire family can train with rather than a gun only the "men" can use.
                              And a .22LR handgun fits that role perfectly, at a fraction of the cost of an FN Five-seveN. And the ammo is both cheaper and readily available.

                              Originally posted by NYT
                              im not a fan of 38 for several reasons but one is that i read a study awhile back that found more people survive getting shot by a 38 than a 22.
                              And you're just making the case for a .22LR handgun. Thanks!

                              And the vote for the .357 revolver is now up to 78%.

                              If the OP had already made up his mind when he started this thread, he's just wasting the time of everyone participating in it. People who have already made up their mind and are going to ignore the advice and votes given to do whatever it is they have already decided to do should state that up front so we don't waste our time. They should just say at the beginning "I've already decided I want to get this gun, everyone tell me what a great decision I'm making" and we can spend our time helping other people who really want advice.
                              Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 08-22-2017, 12:28 AM.
                              Revolvers are not pistols

                              pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                              Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                              ExitCalifornia.org

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                              • #45
                                claylakers
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 2807

                                Owned the FN Five Seven and sold it. Still have the PS90 if I really feel the need to pop off some 5.7 rounds, but I wasn't a huge fan of the Five Seven and am not necessarily itching to replace it. Still have 5+ 357s in the safe and I am actively looking to add more. If it's self defense you're worried about, find a range that has both, try them, and buy whatever you shoot best. Good luck

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