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  • Nrai2020
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 2342

    Squibs



    I ve never experienced one myself.. but now I m actually really concerned about this.

    Hickock mentioned reloads. Is factory reloaded ammo more likely to have squibs? Poorly stored ammo (he mentioned "moisture getting to the rounds")?
  • #2
    Chapped Hide
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 3901

    Now days I shoot factory loads and my own. I have never worried about a squib, if it happens it happens not much you can do to avoid it. Hopefully I don't pull the trigger on a squib but if I do, I'll make sure and post photos here
    **** your feelings!

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    • #3
      The Shootist
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1796

      It happens with factory ammo as well...just recognize when something doesn't feel right. I've only experienced two with all the shooting I've done. Its something you aren't thinking about with every shot fired but you know it can happen and just stop if something doesn't feel right make safe and inspect..if it happens during rapid fire drills it might be difficult to put on the brakes lol
      Last edited by The Shootist; 08-12-2017, 7:55 AM.
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      • #4
        Calico1404
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 3401





        Squib in a sig. Factory reloads.

        Sorry pic size ill fix by noon when off shift.
        Last edited by Calico1404; 03-26-2020, 9:54 AM.

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        • #5
          MrOrange
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 2262

          Factory reloads: In general, yes, but it depends on the manufacturer. For example, I wouldn't have any reservations using Black Hills remans, but that's about it.

          Storage: It takes a really bad storage situation to affect ammo, like 120 degrees for a long time or something like that. If you keep it in a climate controlled environment, like typical living quarters, it'll last purt near forever. Throw in a dehumidifier in an enclosed space, even better. Just like medicine: A cool, dry place.

          Squibs aren't a big deal, if you're paying attention, in semi-autos. If you resist the urge to clear it fast and keep shooting because you're under pressure, it's not a problem because the gun will stop running. Just remember to observe the ejected round that didn't fire: If it's a whole cartridge, then it was a dud (or a misfire that may go off on the ground); if it's an empty case, then you have to stop and check the bore.

          The problem is in revolvers, when a bullet clears the forcing cone, and the shooter keeps cranking on the trigger. So stop & check things out when you hear & feel an underpowered round, and you'll be fine.

          The fun starts when the bullet sticks in the forcing cone and prevents the cylinder from rotating, or opening. Now you've got a jammed gun, likely with live rounds in the other chambers. Wheeeee!
          I meant, it is my opinion that...






          I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
          I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
          You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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          • #6
            Win231
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 2099

            The only squib I've had was when I was shooting a friend's reloads before I started reloading. No powder charge. No problems with my reloads - 40 years shooting them.

            I shot some factory ammo that had been in someone's gun for 35 years. Out of 100 rounds, two had dead primers. No squibs.

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            • #7
              lakersfan
              Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 499

              Got one yesterday trying out my reloads for the first time. The next round wouldn't chamber so I got lucky.

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              • #8
                billped
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 2504

                Just be aware. Suspicious low energy round? Put it down for 10-15 seconds, aiming forward with your hand on the gun. Then field strip it and check.

                60 seconds down time is far better than a ruined gun and shrapnel all over your hands and face.
                Bill

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                • #9
                  Turbinator
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11933

                  Originally posted by billped
                  Just be aware. Suspicious low energy round? Put it down for 10-15 seconds, aiming forward with your hand on the gun. Then field strip it and check.

                  60 seconds down time is far better than a ruined gun and shrapnel all over your hands and face.
                  Hmm, instead of putting it down, if you have a suspicious recoil / report / failure to cycle / failure to extract / failure to ignite the primer, suggest keeping the gun held in your hands and pointed in a safe direction (usuallly down range) for the usual 30 seconds. But no, I don't advise putting the gun down.

                  Turby

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                  • #10
                    bcj128
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 462

                    Had one on a Glock 380 - luckily it only went a little way into the barrel - enough so I couldn't chamber another round. Lucky for that because it didn't feel all that unusual.


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                    • #11
                      navydad2010
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 545

                      My one and only experience was not long ago in my 9MM Shield. Using my own reload.

                      A low power recoil and a key holed target WAY off POA was the clue.

                      Waited the prescribed amount of time with a baffled look, I'm sure.

                      Racked slide and spent case ejected.

                      Disassembled and poked out Copper Jacket. Key hole was lead hollow point!

                      Primer only, no powder Changed the procedure/routine when charging cases.

                      Lesson learned
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                      • #12
                        Scotty
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1650

                        I was working as a RO at a police and fire olympics many years ago. We had one guy who had FOUR squibs with his department issued duty ammo. That was when they made him stop using that ammo.

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