I have a series 80 clone with a crapload of creep. I'm really comfortable with the 4.5 pound pull, but the creep is god awful. I do have a pistolsmith in my area with an outstanding reputation, but I also have a wife prone to yelling about $200 expenditures on toys. Simple question is, will adding a secondary angle shed weight from the trigger or just clean up the creep. I do understand the importance of tolerances, angles, etc., just want a simple answer on the effect of adding that relief.
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On the 80 series , there is more to it than Cutting a relief angle on the sear. ON ANY 1911 it is more than just that. First square, measure and shortening the hammer hooks, then at a minimum re-cutting the primary angle and cutting a relief or secondary angle is the beginning, the biggest issue with the 80 series is dressing and polishing of the linkage and fp safety plunger, that is where most of the creep is felt in the 80 series. When dressing linkage you also need to deburr the frame slot so you get rid of grit in that area too and polish the appropriate side surfaces on the sear, hammer, and disconnector...that is the short explanation."Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin -
Creep for sure. Not weight.
Primary angle can change weight, but messing with either can make the gun unsafe. All depends on your knowledge and experience.Hobbies: bla, bla, bla... Bought a Mosin Nagant... Guns, Guns, Guns...Comment
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DIY trigger jobs, partically the series 80 1911's are NEVER a good idea...
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin
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Without a complete understanding of the design and interaction of parts... and without proper tools...
Since the OP has aN awesome pistolsmith nearby I would recommend spending the money and having it done the right way. Assuming the smith is experienced with 1911s.Last edited by MosinVirus; 08-02-2017, 10:40 PM.Hobbies: bla, bla, bla... Bought a Mosin Nagant... Guns, Guns, Guns...Comment
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This too"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben FranklinComment
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By the time you pay for the right tool to grind the sear you're better off paying a gunsmith. However if you're not carrying the pistol, you can consider just adjusting the leaf spring to lower the pull weight, which might make the creep less noticeable. That's a mod that doesn't cost much money.I have a series 80 clone with a crapload of creep. I'm really comfortable with the 4.5 pound pull, but the creep is god awful. I do have a pistolsmith in my area with an outstanding reputation, but I also have a wife prone to yelling about $200 expenditures on toys. Simple question is, will adding a secondary angle shed weight from the trigger or just clean up the creep. I do understand the importance of tolerances, angles, etc., just want a simple answer on the effect of adding that relief.Trigger jobs, range reports & other mods - https://lanzerbot.wordpress.com/Comment
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adjusting the leaf spring on an 80 series will lighten the pull but will not address the creep. It is one way to relieve what you feel but the creep will not go away....."Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben FranklinComment
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$200 is a bit over just to remove the creep. Do you have an older series 80 Colt or does it have all the MIM parts?The wise man said just find your place
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Seek the roses along the way
Just beware of the thorns... K. MeineComment
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Trigger creep has nothing to do with the hammer/sear fit on a 1911. If you like your 4.5#pull, don't even attempt any modification to those parts.
Watch this and let us know that it works. Been there, done that.
Last edited by AKexpat; 08-03-2017, 12:12 PM.Comment
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